Balance

[Wyakin]

I don't know what you class as 'significantly', but I am not seeing that at all.

Going by the site that shall not be named, looking at rDPS across the whole of the first raid tier, Ninja is top at 8141 and Reaper is 7972, this is looking at the median DPS. That is ~2% less DPS and it is the same sort of story looking at the top parses as well.

So, the question then becomes, where did you expect to see Reaper? Or is it more of a case of, well, everyone else got buffs, what about Reaper? As it stands, reaper is in a fine spot, it didn't get anything, because it didn't need anything. I have also heard that Reaper is where they wanted to set the 'baseline' metric for the other melee jobs (take with a grain of salt), if it is the baseline, of course it isn't going to get changes as everything else should be confirming to it. As has also been stated, they do not like nerfing jobs and would rather buff others, I'm sure if reaper fell too far behind, it would also get buffs.

I hate to break it to you, but those figures are wrong. I don’t know what you was looking at but let’s look at percentiles where people can actually play. Ninja sits at around 9150 vs reapers 8850. It’s closer to a 4% gap than 2. Now it may not seem a lot, but as I’ve said before, being bottom dps is fine. Being 4% behind isn’t. Reaper is being excluded from log runs and in extreme cases ultimate groups. I’m not asking for the world, not even a huge increase.

[Mikey_R]

I hate to break it to you, but those figures are wrong. I don’t know what you was looking at but let’s look at percentiles where people can actually play. Ninja sits at around 9150 vs reapers 8850. It’s closer to a 4% gap than 2. Now it may not seem a lot, but as I’ve said before, being bottom dps is fine. Being 4% behind isn’t. Reaper is being excluded from log runs and in extreme cases ultimate groups. I’m not asking for the world, not even a huge increase.

I was looking at the median across all the fights, middle ground, so it should be a fairer comparison, I just went through again and, again, the highest difference is 2.5%. I suspect you are taking parses from a specific fight and using them to get your numbers. Whether intentional or not, it is not a good way to measure the dps. You need to have data over various fights, that way a boss that could heavily favour one job over another due to mechanics can be evened out, in this case, Ninja having access to Ninjutsu at range as opposed to Reaper having Harpe and one time use of Harvest Moon.

Also, I will take your word that it is being left out of groups as I do not know for certain, however, in the case of parse groups, if you are, as an example, boosting a Samurai, who would you rather take? the Reaper who has 3% damage buff every 2 minutes for 20 seconds or Monk who has 5% every 2 minutes for 15 seconds OR Ninja who has a 5% damage up debuff every 2 minutes for 20 seconds. Parse groups are taking the best comp to boost one member of the party, there are only 4 DPS slots, someone is going to be left out. This is not a case of Reaper not performing correctly, this is a case of it not providing enough of a buff to someone else to make it worth bringing.