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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This argument really needs to stop. It's complete nonsense in the context we're debating. With the exception of Ultimate for reasons stated above, the bulk of 6.1's content could be completed within a single week at a slow pace. Nobody has to "consume content at a stupid space." There isn't enough to consume. What are we supposed to do? Pick one side story quest chain a week just to artificially stretch out the patch? 6.1 is nearly three weeks old now and I've done everything it has to offer except spam Endsinger a billion times for her mount. I have cleared her several plenty. No such luck on the mount though. In 6.15, we're getting a handful of one and down story chains. So what exactly am I rushing here?
    No it doesn't. Just because the game doesn't give the kind of content YOU want doesn't mean there's no content. You don't need to log in every single day, take breaks, go play something else, but at the end of the day other MMO's I play go a year or more with ZERO content. This game comes out with a major patch every 4 months. The problem is you, not the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    No it doesn't. Just because the game doesn't give the kind of content YOU want doesn't mean there's no content. You don't need to log in every single day, take breaks, go play something else, but at the end of the day other MMO's I play go a year or more with ZERO content. This game comes out with a major patch every 4 months. The problem is you, not the game.
    You keep insisting this yet I've already listed what the current patch has to offer and that I, specifically, have already done everything. For the sake of review, we have:

    MSQ
    Endsinger
    Unreal
    Agiaga
    Role Quests
    Crafting
    PvP

    Of those six things listed, I have completed every single one except PvP over just a two week span. And I'm only not done with PvP because I didn't initially bother with it but have since given it a whirl. I didn't rush through the content. None of it has any staying power except PvP as it's all primarily one and done. Endsinger's only longevity comes from if you care to farm her mount. Everything else is weekly restricted and/or over within an hour or two. So what exactly is this content I don't want to do? 6.15 isn't offering a bevy of longevity either. Like I said previously, it's several one and done quest chains. I have no doubt some will be cool, especially hildibrand, but they're over within the hour.

    Before you mention jobs previous things like jobs. I have nearly every job leveled to 90. I've only held back on some so I have something to level when Deep Dungeon drops. I have every Crafter and Gather max and fully pentamelded. With the new gear to boot. I've done the role quests. I've done a good portion of the side quests. I have both Hydaelyn and Zodiark's mounts. In fact, I spammed the later nearly 100 times. I've BiS all my tanks, DRG, SMN and am only missing the weapon on RPR and RDM. And all this while taking that break to play other games. So no, I'm not 24/7-ing FFXIV. Nor am I opting not to do content that isn't available. Outside DRU, which I'm currently progging, there isn't anything to do unless you consider grinding 10,000 FATEs for the achievement good content.

    And it isn't like I'm expecting something new to do daily. I'd be fine with some meaningful grinds to keep me occupied. How about the relic? Why are we waiting an entire year for one of the few pieces of longevity content to be released? If it came out earlier, that would help satiate a lot of players. I'll go one better and say let the damn thing equal the Savage weapons. Make the steps worthwhile to do. "The raiders will complain!" Very few give a damn at this point. I cleared P4S week two and couldn't give a hoot if week 400, the relic matches my weapon. Just make it something decent and fun to do and not a free poetic dump.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 05-02-2022 at 04:57 AM.
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    AmpelioB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You keep insisting this yet I've already listed what the current patch has to offer and that I, specifically, have already done everything. For the sake of review, we have:

    MSQ
    Endsinger
    Unreal
    Agiaga
    Role Quests
    Crafting
    PvP

    Of those six things listed, I have completed every single one except PvP over just a two week span. And I'm only not done with PvP because I didn't initially bother with it but have since given it a whirl. I didn't rush through the content. None of it has any staying power except PvP as it's all primarily one and done. Endsinger's only longevity comes from if you care to farm her mount. Everything else is weekly restricted and/or over within an hour or two. So what exactly is this content I don't want to do? 6.15 isn't offering a bevy of longevity either. Like I said previously, it's several one and done quest chains. I have no doubt some will be cool, especially hildibrand, but they're over within the hour.

    Before you mention jobs previous things like jobs. I have nearly every job leveled to 90. I've only held back on some so I have something to level when Deep Dungeon drops. I have every Crafter and Gather max and fully pentamelded. With the new gear to boot. I've done the role quests. I've done a good portion of the side quests. I have both Hydaelyn and Zodiark's mounts. In fact, I spammed the later nearly 100 times. I've BiS all my tanks, DRG, SMN and am only missing the weapon on RPR and RDM. And all this while taking that break to play other games. So no, I'm not 24/7-ing FFXIV. Nor am I opting not to do content that isn't available. Outside DRU, which I'm currently progging, there isn't anything to do unless you consider grinding 10,000 FATEs for the achievement good content.

    And it isn't like I'm expecting something new to do daily. I'd be fine with some meaningful grinds to keep me occupied. How about the relic? Why are we waiting an entire year for one of the few pieces of longevity content to be released? If it came out earlier, that would help satiate a lot of players. I'll go one better and say let the damn thing equal the Savage weapons. Make the steps worthwhile to do. "The raiders will complain!" Very few give a damn at this point. I cleared P4S week two and couldn't give a hoot if week 400, the relic matches my weapon. Just make it something decent and fun to do and not a free poetic dump.
    It sounds like you should take a break from the game, in my honest opinion.
    Relic always come up on late patch 6.25, go live your life pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmpelioB View Post
    It sounds like you should take a break from the game, in my honest opinion.
    Relic always come up on late patch 6.25, go live your life pal.
    ... I just said I already did in that very post. I've been playing other games. Everything I listed simply has no longevity except PvP. It took all of a half hour or so to gather and craft the new gear, for example. And bam, my crafting is done until 6.2 outside of selling stuff. Endsinger was dead in a lockout; Agiage within 40 minutes. At this point, if it weren't for DRU prog, I'd be taking a break until 6.15, which is over a month away because there's literally nothing to do besides PvP. Which, admittedly, is pretty decent, I'll grant them.

    I "live my life" just fine, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I "live my life" just fine, thanks.
    you play this game since 2013 (perhaps even more) looking for stuff to do every single day to the point that you count the exact time you spend on them. how. very. odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You keep insisting this yet I've already listed what the current patch has to offer and that I, specifically, have already done everything. For the sake of review, we have:

    MSQ
    Endsinger
    Unreal
    Agiaga
    Role Quests
    Crafting
    PvP

    Of those six things listed, I have completed every single one except PvP over just a two week span. And I'm only not done with PvP because I didn't initially bother with it but have since given it a whirl. I didn't rush through the content. None of it has any staying power except PvP as it's all primarily one and done. Endsinger's only longevity comes from if you care to farm her mount. Everything else is weekly restricted and/or over within an hour or two. So what exactly is this content I don't want to do? 6.15 isn't offering a bevy of longevity either. Like I said previously, it's several one and done quest chains. I have no doubt some will be cool, especially hildibrand, but they're over within the hour.

    Before you mention jobs previous things like jobs. I have nearly every job leveled to 90. I've only held back on some so I have something to level when Deep Dungeon drops. I have every Crafter and Gather max and fully pentamelded. With the new gear to boot. I've done the role quests. I've done a good portion of the side quests. I have both Hydaelyn and Zodiark's mounts. In fact, I spammed the later nearly 100 times. I've BiS all my tanks, DRG, SMN and am only missing the weapon on RPR and RDM. And all this while taking that break to play other games. So no, I'm not 24/7-ing FFXIV. Nor am I opting not to do content that isn't available. Outside DRU, which I'm currently progging, there isn't anything to do unless you consider grinding 10,000 FATEs for the achievement good content.

    And it isn't like I'm expecting something new to do daily. I'd be fine with some meaningful grinds to keep me occupied. How about the relic? Why are we waiting an entire year for one of the few pieces of longevity content to be released? If it came out earlier, that would help satiate a lot of players. I'll go one better and say let the damn thing equal the Savage weapons. Make the steps worthwhile to do. "The raiders will complain!" Very few give a damn at this point. I cleared P4S week two and couldn't give a hoot if week 400, the relic matches my weapon. Just make it something decent and fun to do and not a free poetic dump.
    Sounds like a you problem and you should quit the game. You'd be doing us a favor.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sounds like a you problem and you should quit the game. You'd be doing us a favor.
    How would them quitting be doing everyone a favor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sounds like a you problem and you should quit the game. You'd be doing us a favor.
    the threads about toxic positivity now make a lot of sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleDynamics View Post
    the threads about toxic positivity now make a lot of sense to me.
    so is general negative toxicity. This crap goes both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    so is general negative toxicity. This crap goes both ways.
    And because crap goes both ways we should tolerate both? Sure, general negative toxicity is bad, but it's the most obvious bad there is.

    Toxic positivity happens rampantly throughout these forums, yet when it's mentioned people love excusing it.
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