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    To be fair... I don't really know if I ever saw an MMO free oe otherwise that would ever nail. The replayable content isn't exactly easy to nail. Just look at whatever they tried to implement in any of the WoW expansions. Island expeditions, Tower of Thorghast. Each on paper supposed to give player something to do yet the rewards were so lackluster and yet tied to current progression so players were forced to do them alongside dozen of daily activities which only lead to the burnout.

    There's also the thing that unlike some other games out there FFXIV doesn't throw the old content to garbage every time a new expansion drops. And a large portion of this patch went into reworking old dungeons, implementing Duty Support and bringing old markers up to the current standards. And I'm grateful they did put their effort there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sounds like a you problem and you should quit the game. You'd be doing us a favor.
    the threads about toxic positivity now make a lot of sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    But they already have a proven track record in this game to back that up. The list that comes to mind instantly:

    #1 Housing - The demolition timer added post-release was a classic gotcha trap.

    #2 Cash Shop - Originally only had plans to add a few items every so often. Now it is 5-10 items every month or more.

    #3 Event items - The first events gave items that you could trade / buy / sell at any time. Now every item is untradable and the only way to get it is a year after the event for $.

    The dev team is great but there is no denying SE will do anything that they can to milk this game forever.
    Demo timer is 45 days. Plenty of time to log back in once in a while.

    Cash Shop added... 6? new items since Endwalker launch.

    Event items were botted and sold, blame the greedy botfarms.

    Compare FF to any other MMO in terms of milking the game and honestly its not even bad.
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  4. #364
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleDynamics View Post
    the threads about toxic positivity now make a lot of sense to me.
    so is general negative toxicity. This crap goes both ways.
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  5. #365
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleDynamics View Post
    the threads about toxic positivity now make a lot of sense to me.
    They are clearly bored with the game. Why keep playing it? Its been the same content cycles for 8 years, its not going to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    They are clearly bored with the game. Why keep playing it? Its been the same content cycles for 8 years, its not going to change.
    Not with that attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Not with that attitude.

    Sorry, not sorry. Its never going to change. Its been working for them for 8 years and the game is more popular than ever. I like the content cycles we get, if you don't tough shit, go find something else to play. I on the other hand am quite grateful to get consistent content. Try playing something like swtor that rarely gets updated and then tell me how ffxiv content is so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sorry, not sorry. Its never going to change. Its been working for them for 8 years and the game is more popular than ever. I like the content cycles we get, if you don't tough shit, go find something else to play. I on the other hand am quite grateful to get consistent content. Try playing something like swtor that rarely gets updated and then tell me how ffxiv content is so bad.
    Jesus buddy you are going to give yourself a stroke.
    Maybe it's you that needs the break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sounds like a you problem and you should quit the game. You'd be doing us a favor.
    I love the pettiness because god forbid I criticism this game in any way shape or form. Suppose I touched a nerve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Sorry, not sorry. Its never going to change. Its been working for them for 8 years and the game is more popular than ever. I like the content cycles we get, if you don't tough shit, go find something else to play. I on the other hand am quite grateful to get consistent content. Try playing something like swtor that rarely gets updated and then tell me how ffxiv content is so bad.
    I love the irony that it's okay to have this toxic attitude but simply criticizing aspects of the game I dislike means I should just quit. You're allowed to adore this game and every aspect of it just as I'm allowed to criticism it. That doesn't mean I dislike the game as a whole. Put simply, if you don't like my opinion. Kindly take your own advice and go find someone else to reply to.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 05-02-2022 at 10:38 AM.
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    He's right though, the OP is wanting to add stuff to make people log in daily, something the director himself does not want people to do. Yoshi-P wants people to play when they want, sub when they want, take breaks, and not feel pressured to keep playing. The OP wants to pressure people to keep playing, so what they want is the opposite of what the director himself wants from this game. Hell, most players would likely tell them the same thing, that they don't want to be pressured to log in daily.
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