Quote Originally Posted by Chopstix View Post
pointing half the mobs at the party in a dungeon? really? who cares? every other tank does that, they r used to it and it also does not matter

aoe is exactly as big as mythril tempest, if u cant land that one on everything i dont know what to tell u

having a conal aoe that sticks out like a sore thumbs is not a job identity, it is a PITA

just use provoke/tomahawk to get the mobs to gather up by the time u r close use one circle aoe, there done, now go to the next pack

i think u r misunderstanding my point in general... i dont particularly care if all the warrior aoes r a conal or a circle, i just want them to be the same shape, be it one or the other, and not have to run around every goddamn GCD

another point is the conal used to require a target... now for aoes in particular it is incredibly annoying, GL hitting everything in a pack as a caster, if u dont need a target, u can aim ur aoe by moving ur character, this is especially pronounced in cases where the mobs r in a fixed spot and it is literally impossible to hit everything with old conal overpower... a case in point is p3s dark orbs, orbs in zodiark extreme, UWU ifrit phase where u had to move the boss to be able to aoe nails thus being dangerously close to eruptions and maybe even annoying some melee dps

in essence, crying about the conal change in my mind is so incredibly out of this world that i still struggle to understand y one would want to go back to that nightmare.... it is harder to land ur other MORE POWERFUL aoes on everything because u have to run around all the time, sometimes it is even impossible to hit everything cause of the shape/range and target requirement, u cannot manually aim cause target needed... it is night and day and i hope one day u will realise that
I'm going to genuinely ask about the p3s one, conal overpower and fell-cleave-only inner release have never coexisted - is it better to delay the inner release that comes up at dark fires/delay the opening one and have it all reset during bird adds? As I recall, people who deeply cared about coloured numbers for zodiark ex used inner release/decimates on zodiark's balls. I can't speak about uwu, frankly ultimates don't really interest me as much as fishing.

With regard to pulling with tomahawk: the increased range on conal overpower made it a superior tool for pulling as it'd grab the entire mob pack and let you more quickly enter whatever it is they call storm's eye these days.

With regard to the required target point: primal rend requires a target, as does DRK's flood of shadow/darkness. Generally speaking it's good practice to have a target selected anyway for autoattack damage and to make sure you're able to interject/stun the annoying mob out of whatever it is that it does in this example.