Healers need an overhaul

[currentlemon]

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I recommend that you, or anyone else here in General Discussion, watch Sarixis's YouTube videos on FFXIV Healing. He is a small, but underrated FFXIV content creator that gives a brief but good explanation as to why healers are in such a sad state right now and offers a good benchmark on how SE can rework the jobs by using old assets that are still in the game's files. Because of his videos, I was able to convince someone who was in favor of the 1 button DPS spam into understanding our argument and in favor in adding more DPS spells.

Please note, these videos were made before the 6.1 patch.

WHM: https://youtu.be/dF3XIhJm_N0
SCH: https://youtu.be/b2YZ1dx34ug
AST: https://youtu.be/XNJGY9B7VW4

Take his WHM video for example.

He suggests that SE brings back Fluid Aura.

• The spell will act as a mini-Enochian and gives the WHM a 5% dmg boost.
• Will upgrade to Water/Banish at later levels.
• Adds the trait "Conviction" where if a WHM heals an ally that's below 50% of their health, they gain three Conviction "stacks" that boosts the damage of Fluid Aura/Water/Banish significantly.

He also suggests that SE introduces a new skill called, Sacrosanctity.

• It uses the old Cleric Stance animation.
• Marks an enemy npc and deals damage to them whenever the WHM casts a healing GCD.

I don't agree with everything on his videos, but it's a good watch and it helps non-healer players understand what we healer mains want. He understands the Healer role very well.

[Iedarus]

I've had more fun healing in PvP the last week on sage than I've had healing in 14 since shadowbringers launch day. If they don't implement some of the ideas in PvP healers into PvE they're insane.

This is the same company that deleted Kaiten and cut Hroth ears off, saying they were covered by HAIR. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Nizzi]

I recommend that you, or anyone else here in General Discussion, watch Sarixis's YouTube videos on FFXIV Healing. He is a small, but underrated FFXIV content creator that gives a brief but good explanation as to why healers are in such a sad state right now and offers a good benchmark on how SE can rework the jobs by using old assets that are still in the game's files. Because of his videos, I was able to convince someone who was in favor of the 1 button DPS spam into understanding our argument and in favor in adding more DPS spells.

Please note, these videos were made before the 6.1 patch.

WHM: https://youtu.be/dF3XIhJm_N0
SCH: https://youtu.be/b2YZ1dx34ug
AST: https://youtu.be/XNJGY9B7VW4

Take his WHM video for example.

He suggests that SE brings back Fluid Aura.

• The spell will act as a mini-Enochian and gives the WHM a 5% dmg boost.
• Will upgrade to Water/Banish at later levels.
• Adds the trait "Conviction" where if a WHM heals an ally that's below 50% of their health, they gain three Conviction "stacks" that boosts the damage of Fluid Aura/Water/Banish significantly.

He also suggests that SE introduces a new skill called, Sacrosanctity.

• It uses the old Cleric Stance animation.
• Marks an enemy npc and deals damage to them whenever the WHM casts a healing GCD.

I don't agree with everything on his videos, but it's a good watch and it helps non-healer players understand what we healer mains want. He understands the Healer role very well.

His videos are great! I don't agree with everything he suggests either but I can't deny that it would be more fun than what we've currently got.

[ty_taurus]

His videos are great! I don't agree with everything he suggests either but I can't deny that it would be more fun than what we've currently got.

It's also just well-thought out which our current healers are not. There are so many ways to break a job's design that it's understandable why they felt like homogonization was the correct path, even if unacceptable by many of us.

To be honest, though, I think we need to be less scared of breaking stuff. Balance is important, and I'm normally a huge advocate of balance, but becoming obsessed with balance and perfection has made our jobs dull and lifeless. I would rather have something imbalanced but fun than something consistently dull. We all to often forget that this is a game, not an SAT test. The job does need to flow, and we can want to play as best we can with the jobs we have, but was it really bad for AST's cards to have RNG? Was it really bad for the faeries to be different but lopsided?

[Jirah]

I’ve said this a lot but two scenarios need to happen:

Overhaul damage dealt so bosses/mobs/ect delivery damage alot more often and in 4 man content 200% more potent

Or have healers have light version of ranger/Caster kits

The first option will never happen as the content is way to fixated in its heavily scripted design, so the only hope for a overhaul is a DPS kit just light enough not to be boring

[QooEr]

I’ve said this a lot but two scenarios need to happen:

Overhaul damage dealt so bosses/mobs/ect delivery damage alot more often and in 4 man content 200% more potent

Or have healers have light version of ranger/Caster kits

The first option will never happen as the content is way to fixated in its heavily scripted design, so the only hope for a overhaul is a DPS kit just light enough not to be boring

i find it strange that people think the first option will "never happen" when, well, it DID happen. back in arr and heavensward autos did more damage and even crit... even the first boss of gubal library randomly autoattacks dps so even with scripted mechanics they can definitely make healing more interesting. if they bring that back, well thats a different story.

[HyoMinPark]

i find it strange that people think the first option will "never happen" when, well, it DID happen. back in arr and heavensward autos did more damage and even crit... even the first boss of gubal library randomly autoattacks dps so even with scripted mechanics they can definitely make healing more interesting. if they bring that back, well thats a different story.

Probably because the developers have stated that they have no plans to increase the amount of outgoing damage that needs to be healed. Otherwise, the baby healers would be “too stressed out” and completely fall apart. Or something.

They also removed the ability for bosses to Crit auto in any content added after Stormblood. Which I disagree with but apparently it was “too difficult to manage”.

[Wanzzo]

So, some general suggestions.


SCH:

• Bane and Miasma return.
• Eos and Selene are now slightly different.
  1. Selene's Whispering Dawn will heal for less upfront but has a longer duration, while Eos will heal for more quickly but have a lower duration but both will heal for the same total potency.
  2. Selene will receive Fey Covenant to act as an inverse of Fey Illumination, reducing the damage the party takes by 10% instead of 5% but only increases healing received by 5% instead of 10%.
  3. Fey Blessing will be lowered down to level 30 and will provide a Shield effect for Selene or a Heal with Eos.
• The Fairy Gauge now unlocks are level 20 with Whispering Dawn and starts off at 100 upon entering an instance and each fairy ability will now use 25 gauge to utilize. All your GCD attacks will restore 5 gauge each, Aetherflow abilities will continue to restore 10 gauge. DoTs have a 50% proc to restore 5 more gauge per tic.
• Aetherpact will no longer tether your fairy to a party member but will summon your unused fairy to the target, causing them to heal the target only. This frees up your fairy to continue to utilize her other abilities without the clunkiness of applying and reapplying the tether if you wish to utilize her other abilities.
• Energy Drain is changed to a 1m oGCD attack with 2 charges that, upon use, will turn Art of War into Shadowflare and Ruin 2 into Ruination. Shadowflare will cause a slow on all targets hit while Ruination has the same potency as Broil and will reduce the damage the target does by 5% for 15s with. Both these effects have a 1 minute CD.
• Rouse and Eye for an Eye return as low level Seraph and Protraction. Protraction can be spread with Deployment tactics.

AST:

• New AoE skill called Nebula is added.
• Cards are now divided into Major and Minor Arcana.
• Balance, Spear and Arrow will be Major and provide D.Hit, Crit, and Determination.
• Bole, Spire and Ewer will be Minor and provide Mitigation, Healing Received and Shielding.
• Seals are gone entirely and Astrodyne is turned into a 120s CD with all 3 benefits consistently on it.
• Time Dilation returns as low level Exaltation and Synastry is reworked to be low level Celestial Intersection

I like your suggestions.
The faeries now have no reason to be different anymore. It's kinda sad...

And the AST cards, I think the effects of each are debatable, but it's a good start to make them different again as they were in the start.

These aspects are what bothers me most. Why the same effects in two or more buttons or cards? I think we must get or one only button for the same thing or more effect diversity (which is preffered).

[Semirhage]

It's also just well-thought out which our current healers are not. There are so many ways to break a job's design that it's understandable why they felt like homogonization was the correct path, even if unacceptable by many of us.

To be honest, though, I think we need to be less scared of breaking stuff. Balance is important, and I'm normally a huge advocate of balance, but becoming obsessed with balance and perfection has made our jobs dull and lifeless. I would rather have something imbalanced but fun than something consistently dull. We all to often forget that this is a game, not an SAT test. The job does need to flow, and we can want to play as best we can with the jobs we have, but was it really bad for AST's cards to have RNG? Was it really bad for the faeries to be different but lopsided?

WHM was the issue with this state of affairs. It's perfectly workable...if you don't have it starkly contrasted alongside a healer that MUST have zero utility, zero complexity, zero fun unbalanced things, and then the job balancing team wonders why it somehow sucks alongside the two jobs that don't have these weird arbitrary "has to suck" constraints on it.

[Insertusernamehere]

I think another thing healer can benefit double targeting.. you can target boss (or mob) and a group member at same time.

Any offensive spell you use cast to boss.. any beneficial spell you use cast to selected party member.

It makes DPS rotation (they don't have any yet) much more easier. It can be included in targeting options as optional choice.