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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    How can a multi Billion dollar corporation NOT have enough money to allocate to upgrade to the best servers in order to allow more space for housing plots ?? 100 wards 200 plots ??
    I've worked for one of those in the past, their latest earnings 72.3 billion USD p.a.

    They only care about image and shareholders. The trick to keeping one's share prices high is to do the absolute bare minimum to grow customers while doing the utmost to maximise dividends.

    Spending more on housing won't grow new licenses by any meaningful amount, and the few who unsubscribe for that reason is small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I've worked for one of those in the past, their latest earnings 72.3 billion USD p.a.

    They only care about image and shareholders. The trick to keeping one's share prices high is to do the absolute bare minimum to grow customers while doing the utmost to maximise dividends.

    Spending more on housing won't grow new licenses by any meaningful amount, and the few who unsubscribe for that reason is small.
    Most will not unsubscribe.. the idea is fixing this to a large scale WILL basically allow this to be a brand new feature where everyone has access to housing and they can legit advertise as that being part of the game not a fake housing where 1 out of every 10,000 player can have a house. and doing better investment grows better profit due to more people actively playing and more new players joining. Housing is literally the only flaw i see in the game everything else they got spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    ...and doing better investment grows better profit due to more people actively playing and more new players joining...
    As people who do enjoy housing, we'd both like to think that, but I'd guess their hard cold metrics on what new players do when they join the game paint the CEO and board another picture.

    They'll keep doing the absolute minimum to retain the number of houses at a set percentage of active players. Have you noticed how we seem to magically get new housing out of thin air after each burst of new subscribers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As people who do enjoy housing, we'd both like to think that, but I'd guess their hard cold metrics on what new players do when they join the game paint the CEO and board another picture.

    They'll keep doing the absolute minimum to retain the number of houses at a set percentage of active players. Have you noticed how we seem to magically get new housing out of thin air after each burst of new subscribers?
    so what youre saying is if 20-30% of the playerbase is frustrated its not enough for a change until 99% of the playerbase is frustrated and they go down the sink only then we can expect changes from the CEO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As people who do enjoy housing, we'd both like to think that, but I'd guess their hard cold metrics on what new players do when they join the game paint the CEO and board another picture.

    They'll keep doing the absolute minimum to retain the number of houses at a set percentage of active players. Have you noticed how we seem to magically get new housing out of thin air after each burst of new subscribers?
    You can only maintain that level of frustration for so long before people get tired of dealing with it and just leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    You can only maintain that level of frustration for so long before people get tired of dealing with it and just leave.
    exactly there has to be a limit. Lets be honest this housing issue is bigger then they are reporting . Thats why its taking so long because they know this is embarrassing but they wont admit it as it will damage reputation. Lets keep it real thats why its pushed back 2 updates .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    exactly there has to be a limit. Lets be honest this housing issue is bigger then they are reporting . Thats why its taking so long because they know this is embarrassing but they wont admit it as it will damage reputation. Lets keep it real thats why its pushed back 2 updates .
    I think you are conflating a fairly major bug with the system design there.

    As to the design:- We want housing for all, SE still want to limit it - for whatever reason. We think SE is wrong, but they keep doing it, only magically releasing new wards whenever the population grows (magic as they do it without adding new servers). WoW influx... 24 more wards magically appear. Never enough for anyone, but always enough to maintain a percentage.

    As to the bug:- Yoshi himself said the delay "is inexcusable" and those are his exact words there, even if they weren't translated into English.

    I don't think that SE are embarrassed by the lack of housing at all. I think that's their design. And if a number of people get annoyed and leave, at this time, more than enough keep coming in to replace the lost customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I think you are conflating a fairly major bug with the system design there.

    As to the design:- We want housing for all, SE still want to limit it - for whatever reason. We think SE is wrong, but they keep doing it, only magically releasing new wards whenever the population grows (magic as they do it without adding new servers). WoW influx... 24 more wards magically appear. Never enough for anyone, but always enough to maintain a percentage.

    As to the bug:- Yoshi himself said the delay "is inexcusable" and those are his exact words there, even if they weren't translated into English.

    I don't think that SE are embarrassed by the lack of housing at all. I think that's their design. And if a number of people get annoyed and leave, at this time, more than enough keep coming in to replace the lost customers.
    you are still defending a multi billion company who failed to deliver their paying customers with a properly tested patch before being released and then still ignoring a major issue while pretending the housing problem doesnt exist. You're making excuses for them ? there is no reason they cant invest 1% of their revenue into hardware upgrades which will allow 500 plots and 500 wards ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    exactly there has to be a limit. Lets be honest this housing issue is bigger then they are reporting . Thats why its taking so long because they know this is embarrassing but they wont admit it as it will damage reputation. Lets keep it real thats why its pushed back 2 updates .
    Their reputation has already been damaged by the situation.

    Delays do not repair their reputation. The longer the delays continue, the more damage their reputation takes.

    If you want to keep it real, then be real. They're taking their time because if they rush out a fix and problems continue to occur, the damage to their reputation will be magnified several times over what it already has been. At this point, they need to prove to the player base that going with a lottery was the right decision and they're capable of implementing one that works. The sooner they get that done, the better.
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