VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Naria]

QUESTIONS:

#1


#2

ETC

#1
Yes. But I also wish they had done this with the Au Ra and made made one version tall and buff and the other short and dainty. Instead they divided it along gender. Au Ra are massively popular, however, so if Xaela had checked the "Elegant and Amazonian" boxes I have to wonder if the demand for Viera would have still been there.

#2
Big Yes on changing it/making the hunch optional. I just wish that all the races default posture was to stand straight. (M Viera slouch, M Miqote have their heads down, F Au Ra arch their backs to the point that it gives me flashbacks to being scolded by my ballet teacher, etc)

#3
Sure, but I would prefer that is wasn't race specific, and at least all males could equip it (better if everyone could have their own Ronso outfit!).

#4
Hot Take, but while I think Fran is awesome, I've never liked the skimpy outfits on XII's Viera. The Battle Lingerie just makes me roll my eyes (the shoes can have their uses in glams). That said I know a lot of people do like it. What I wished had happened--since all of these answers are wishes that probably never will--was that F Viera had gotten a XIV style starter set like the males, and that Fran's armor had been in Bozja. We really didn't need three recolors of Penelo's awful XII outfit. That way everyone could have used it and it would have been dyable for those who want a different color. But then I suppose ppl would be upset about the job lock. Solution: make it a Treasure coffer drop from one of the instances or for currency.

In the spirit of the Thread:
While I'm here pls fix more hats for Viera and Hrothgar. At the very least make Job Armor, Mogstation and Event headpieces past and future equipable.

[HollowedDoll]

#1
In the spirit of the Thread:
While I'm here pls fix more hats for Viera and Hrothgar. At the very least make Job Armor, Mogstation and Event headpieces past and future equipable.

A good chunk of job head gear shows hair so that's a no go until they make the hairs work properly, at which point 90% of headgear also becomes a non issue. No excuse for any helmets that hide hair though.

[Adamantini]

In the case of Viera ears they could just do what they did with hair, add a deformation to all ears and a flag on hats that would activate said deformation for the bugs bunny method, the other one looks very weird to me.. A bit unsure about the Hrothgar skulls, but didn't they change it so now they're all pretty similar?

I agree that a lot of people wouldn't like the method of putting ears on the hat (a pity, because I really liked the idea).

So I believe the "bugs bunny" method would be the most effective. As you said, just put a "deformation" like they do with hair, and that would solve the problem of most helmets. Apart from that it would be faster to make 4 models of ears, than to arrange all the helmets (excellent solution for the lazy SE)

The problem with the "bugs bunny" method is that it leaves the only visible feature of the race (ears) hidden. Okay, it would still have the characteristic nose, but from a distance, a viera would look like a hyur, or elezen.


I know they changed the hrothgar skull, but unsure if they're all the same now

[HollowedDoll]

I agree that a lot of people wouldn't like the method of putting ears on the hat (a pity, because I really liked the idea).

So I believe the "bugs bunny" method would be the most effective. As you said, just put a "deformation" like they do with hair, and that would solve the problem of most helmets. Apart from that it would be faster to make 4 models of ears, than to arrange all the helmets (excellent solution for the lazy SE)

The problem with the "bugs bunny" method is that it leaves the only visible feature of the race (ears) hidden. Okay, it would still have the characteristic nose, but from a distance, a viera would look like a hyur, or elezen.


I know they changed the hrothgar skull, but unsure if they're all the same now

Hmm, I don't agree on it being hidden, I mean personally I would be in favor of just turning them off with some of them if it meant we could wear hats, but this method still leaves them visible just altered, so it would be a much better one. I imagine the kupo knit cap would look really cute with it. That said it does require more work than just fixing hairs and changing a few flags, so unfortunately I'm not having a lot of hopium.

Also, Viera have a diff body type than either Elezen or Hyur, especially males, plus their hair would be visible as well for some of these hats, so I don't think you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

[SturmChurro]

That said it does require more work than just fixing hairs and changing a few flags, so unfortunately I'm not having a lot of hopium.

Just the fact that they would now set a precedent that headpieces are expected to work for viera - meaning extra work - is more so why I see it not happening. At least not anytime soon.

[Adamantini]

Don't lose hope, folks. I will leave here an image as a symbol of our dreams



(just to remind: yes, I got it from the internet. No, I don't give credits so as not to cause problems for the authors)

[Bunnycake]

Just let our ears clip. I miss wearing helms

[RecoveryPotion]

Even the foreheads on these viera models are normal sized, idk what went wrong when SE designed the Viera or if it's a bug with the way the new hair fits but I really hope they fix it.

Viera be lookin like:

yes please fix giant forehead

[Adamantini]

Just let our ears clip. I miss wearing helms

all of us, my friend... all of us...

[Skyborne]

yes please fix giant forehead

My enormous fivehead raises my intellect from 1 to an entire 2, please don't take this away from me.