Handling Cheaters Gracefully vs Hardline ToS + Questionable legality of bans

[StealthPaladin]

then why the "I beg you to understand the balance of enforcement with accepting money from accounts"
Because this is starting to sound like "you don't pay my sub!? don't tell me what to do!"

and I said nothing about discord. I said cheaters.
You're the one who seems to be conflating discord with cheaters.

legal system? that sounds almost as hilarious when Mihoyo sued someone for breaking NDA and people got all up in arms about it on twitter.

You claimed to have read through this, but obviously that is not the case if you're asking the above. Can't blame you too much, it is alot.

I'm talking about class action suits filed by banned accounts and the burden of taking them on. Go ahead and assume I haven't researched the law with a mindnumbing amount of reading. Assume I'm wrong. It is still a problem because of how civil cases work

Even if SE wins it would still cost the team millions. If they settle, 10s of millions. If they lose, absolutely ridiculous amounts. Current case law on digital assets will come down hard on the lines of the ToS that I brought up as problems IF there is a large amount of banned customers. That's the money WE paid SE going to cheaters instead of content. That is annoying to me.

[hagare]

You claimed to have read through this, but obviously that is not the case if you're asking the above. Can't blame you too much, it is alot.

I'm talking about class action suits filed by banned accounts and the burden of taking them on. Go ahead and assume I haven't researched the law with a mindnumbing amount of reading. Assume I'm wrong. It is still a problem because of how civil cases work

Even if SE wins it would still cost the team millions. If they settle, 10s of millions. If they lose, absolutely ridiculous amounts. Current case law on digital assets will come down hard on the lines of the ToS that I brought up as problems IF there is a large amount of banned customers. That's the money WE paid SE going to cheaters instead of content. That is annoying to me.

So TL;DR
Don't ban cheaters because they might band together and make SE's life a living hell.
So basically the equivalent of Slapp suits.
And you actually think the cheaters actually have enough resources to fight a case where they knowingly and deliberately break the ToS.

again, as hilarious as the people who thinks the person who broke NDA have a legit case.

[StealthPaladin]

So basically the equivalent of Slapp suits.
And you actually think the cheaters actually have enough resources to fight a case where they knowingly and deliberately break the ToS.

again, as hilarious as the people who thinks the person who broke NDA have a legit case.

Ok so basically you don't want to think about it. That's not how class actions work. They don't need any major resources, often none. There are firms that salivate looking for this kind of issue and I have to deal with such things at work. And about Discord, yes it is against the CURRENT ToS. CURRENTLY it meets the definition of 3rd party tool easily. If they enforce hard that means no tools of any kind and will create a large amount of problems for SE

[hagare]

Ok so basically you don't want to think about it. That's not how class actions work. They don't need any major resources, often none. There are firms that salivate looking for this kind of issue. And about Discord, yes it is against the CURRENT ToS. CURRENTLY it meets the definition of 3rd party tool easily. If they enforce hard that means no tools of any kind and will create a large amount of problems for SE

Oh I'd really like to see that happen.
We might have a new meme to replace the "thief fell on a roof and sued the owner of the house he was trying to burgle into and wins!"
"man banned for breaking ToS sues company and wins!"
Apparently legally binding contract signed under no duress is just a suggestion now.