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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonies View Post
    How much time is more needed when doing single pulls in a dungeon? 2 minutes maybe? Would it not be better to have this few minutes in a dungeon and therefor have a tank more who runs dungeons?
    Good riddance to any tank who stops tanking over this. The game is a better place without them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Good riddance to any tank who stops tanking over this. The game is a better place without them.
    2 minutes more gets you enrage already? No wonder decreasingly players like to do the tank job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonies View Post
    2 minutes more gets you enrage already? No wonder decreasingly players like to do the tank job.
    You'd have to be absolutely crazy to stop tanking because a dps pulled for you. We can do without crazy people like that very easily. Maybe someone with trouble leading people will pick up tank then when we stop pretending that tank = leaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    You'd have to be absolutely crazy to stop tanking because a dps pulled for you. We can do without crazy people like that very easily. Maybe someone with trouble leading people will pick up tank then when we stop pretending that tank = leaders.
    Sounds like projection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorio View Post
    Sounds like projection.
    Why do you think me crazy? Bring me the mirror you think I need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loonies View Post
    2 minutes more gets you enrage already? No wonder decreasingly players like to do the tank job.
    I mean, it's not 2 minutes. Taking one pull at a time means you're doubling and in some cases even tripling the amount of time it takes to clear the trash in the dungeon, while making it much less engaging for everyone involved.

    With most dungeons having 12 trash packs (4 to each boss) taking them 1 at a time means adding six minutes to a dungeon run (assuming it takes about a minute to clear a pack) When dungeon runs are about 12~ minutes each, that means single pulling is making the entire run take 50% longer.

    So not only are you significantly increasing how long it takes to get through, it's also going to feel longer because pulling 1 at a time is boring. This is especially bad for dps players, because they may have just waited 15 minutes or more to get into the dungeon in the first place.

    And that's why I don't single pull, I care about and value the time of my fellow group members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    I mean, it's not 2 minutes. Taking one pull at a time means you're doubling and in some cases even tripling the amount of time it takes to clear the trash in the dungeon, while making it much less engaging for everyone involved.

    With most dungeons having 12 trash packs (4 to each boss) taking them 1 at a time means adding six minutes to a dungeon run (assuming it takes about a minute to clear a pack) When dungeon runs are about 12~ minutes each, that means single pulling is making the entire run take 50% longer.

    So not only are you significantly increasing how long it takes to get through, it's also going to feel longer because pulling 1 at a time is boring. This is especially bad for dps players, because they may have just waited 15 minutes or more to get into the dungeon in the first place.

    And that's why I don't single pull, I care about and value the time of my fellow group members.

    Some tanks are still learning/unfamiliar or took a break you don't run 20 km after not running for months but start small and climb your way up.

    Tell the tank to pull more and it's ok if something goes wrong instead of being rude and pulling without notice.

    Obviously it's different if it is a "its just a game so I won't try to improve and will waste 3 people time for selfish reason".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramouche View Post
    Some tanks are still learning/unfamiliar or took a break you don't run 20 km after not running for months but start small and climb your way up.

    Tell the tank to pull more and it's ok if something goes wrong instead of being rude and pulling without notice.

    Obviously it's different if it is a "its just a game so I won't try to improve and will waste 3 people time for selfish reason".
    I mean, I usually tank and know I can handle big pulls. If a tank is pulling slowly and I'm a healer I'll usually gently encourage them to pull more because again, I know I can handle it.

    And I don't solo queue as dps specifically because I never want to deal with a tank and healer combo that refuses to pick up the pace when they're perfectly capable of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    You'd have to be absolutely crazy to stop tanking because a dps pulled for you. We can do without crazy people like that very easily. Maybe someone with trouble leading people will pick up tank then when we stop pretending that tank = leaders.
    What's wrong with asking the tank to pull more instead of pulling more for him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    What's wrong with asking the tank to pull more instead of pulling more for him?
    Nothing, have I claimed there was?
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