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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I've legit never had a problem with this either. But I know decent behavior vs impatience, and I know how to be respectful in a duty finder encounter. But hey, we don't have a definitive answer, maybe we'll be surprised by his answer. Or maybe they intend for it to be a gray area. Only one way to find out. By asking. Odds are, however, its the tanks. If I had to put my money somewhere.
    Tanks pulling has been an MMO staple since...well, forever, in games that utilize tanks, healers and dps. We don't need Yoshi P to tell us anything on this. Seriously. This is just unnecessary. How things have worked from the start is our answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Tanks pulling has been an MMO staple since...well, forever, in games that utilize tanks, healers and dps. We don't need Yoshi P to tell us anything on this. Seriously. This is just unnecessary.
    I think its necesarry. I think people need to hear it from him. But you do you. Unless you have some plan to deprive others of their free will that could potentially work I would refrain from telling others what they can feel is necessary and what isn't.

    Also it was customary for a ranged class or a puller to bring the mob into the party where the tank would take over in FFXI. So its safe to say it hasn't been a staple in the other half of Final Fantasy's MMOs since they only have 2.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Unless you have some plan to deprive others of their free will that could potentially work I would refrain from telling others what they can feel is necessary and what isn't.
    You're...something else. Take that however you want. Not trying to deprive anyone of their "free will'. Just...what? I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to disagree with others on a public forum of I want, unless you have some plan to deprive others of their free will.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    You're...something else. Take that however you want. Not trying to deprive anyone of their "free will'. Just...what? I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to disagree with others on a public forum of I want, unless you have some plan to deprive others of their free will.
    I'll put a positive spin on it. Don't worry.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I'll put a positive spin on it. Don't worry.
    Yeah, I'd expect nothing less from you.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Yeah, I'd expect nothing less from you.
    Nice edit to look less bad. I'm not the one telling you whats necesarry and what isn't or whats okay to ask and what isn't so its kind of cringe to try and turn this around. Either way Yoshi may never answer this but I think your posts say enough about you. Hope you learn to respect others questions even if you don't think they need answers in the future. The frequency this gets asked on this forums would lead you to believe otherwise.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Nice edit to look less bad. I'm not the one telling you whats necesarry and what isn't or whats okay to ask and what isn't so its kind of cringe to try and turn this around. Either way Yoshi may never answer this but I think your posts say enough about you. Hope you learn to respect others questions even if you don't think they need answers in the future. The frequency this gets asked on this forums would lead you to believe otherwise.
    I just added to what I already said. I do that a lot with my posts, usually after a few seconds or so after I've collected my thoughts. Not to make me look less bad (truly couldn't care less about that) but to further explain myself. I'm not afraid to express my opinions or voice my disagreement with anyone. You are no different from anyone else in that regard, despite how you are trying to spin things.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-24-2022 at 07:26 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Damn people still get really heated about this, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I've legit never had a problem with this either. But I know decent behavior vs impatience, and I know how to be respectful in a duty finder encounter. But hey, we don't have a definitive answer, maybe we'll be surprised by his answer. Or maybe they intend for it to be a gray area. Only one way to find out. By asking. Odds are, however, its the tanks. If I had to put my money somewhere.
    The answer is within the tos around Lethargic Play and Nescience Behavior. You are prohibited from pk'ing others by manipulating Enmity generating actions or failing to perform your role when could have.

    Those who think it is acceptable can and perhaps should spend some time waiting for the GM in Goal.
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  10. #120
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    I don't mind people pulling ahead of me in dungeons. However, if I get rescued to the pull because I'm 1 foot behind everyone else, I'll just leave without comment. That's not super fun or motivating to me. Seriously, you don't need to do that.
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