DPS/Healers pulling in dungeons

[Vahlnir]

YPYT will never not be pathetic behavior, regardless of how you view the DPS pulling issue.

Yep. It's just petty. I used to be THAT guy once upon a time but eventually I realized the error of my ways. It accomplishes nothing but slowing everyone down and making oneself look like a complete tool.

[EnigmaticDodo]

As someone who likes tanking dungeons I've noticed a trend, at least on Materia, of DPS and Healers deciding to pull.

This can be in the form of using a ranged attack on an enemy I haven't reached yet (waiting to get into melee range for an AoE). Or if I pause for 3 seconds after a boss to take a drink of water, by the time I put the bottle back down the DPS has run off

I am not talking about the case where the tank only pulls one or two packs and the healer is encouraging to pull more by bringing a few friends. This isn't a small packs vs wall to wall issue.

I don't remember really ever seeing this on NA/JP DCs but maybe that's changed too?
Is this something players on other DCs are seeing?

This is something people do to me when I tank and I don't actually care. Do you know why that is? You usually have to do a single attack or perhaps... TWO!? to get your aggro back. It's not that big of a deal.

I will admit that I do it too and usually it isn't a big deal, but then you'll get a cry baby every once in a while who can't be bothered to press buttons they were already pressing because i tOoK CoNtRoL FrOm ThEm. I just take the penalty once they freak out.

[BaconBits]

YPYT advocates displaying more maidenless behavior yet again

[Nestama]

If a healer/DPS pulls, just use your AoE rotation and you're golden (use mitigations for trash. They're not really needed for the wet noodle bosses). They're not making your job harder, tanking is the easiest job to play in this game (thanks to Shadowbringers), tanks do not control the pace, every single dungeon plays out mostly exactly the same (♫trash pack, boss, trash pack, boss, trash pack, final boss♫) etc etc.

[MiaShino]

Huh morbid curiosity overtook a Mia and oh lookie! Level 90 Warrior and golds and purples everywhere. Am now thinking troll and I wasted the time but at the least I hopes my posts help someone..

Bowing out of this here thread, twas fun.

[Broken_Wind]

This thread was never meant to be about:
Big pulls: tanks typically all learn this anyway. Its rude beyond belief to try to force this on a sprout in a 1-50 dungeon, but generally beyond that its easy enough to coach someone into it
YPYT: As long as you bring the mobs to me, Ill grab the aggro. No issue here.
Popping sprint: The funny thing is, when I DPS I find its still more common to NOT pop sprint in the lower level dungeons. I have *never* once seen someone suggest it in a party. that said, if I have my invuln skill Ill typically use sprint healer dependent.

This is more about those times where I am waiting for everyone to zone into next area (healer in particular). Or when I want to take a drink. Or maybe someone didn't know a mechanic on the boss we just killed and I'm pointing it out for next time

[MiaShino]

This is more about those times where I am waiting for everyone to zone into next area (healer in particular). Or when I want to take a drink. Or maybe someone didn't know a mechanic on the boss we just killed and I'm pointing it out for next time

Watched the uncle do this in the ice sprite hallway of doooom in Vigil. He mains as tank and occasionally forgets to remember he is no longer tanking. Watching the squishy healer Leeroy down the double ice sprite hallway was fricken hilarious. Still learning healer he wished to attempt the big chungus pull a second time and he did, I suppose. "Dammit I'm dead what happened?" his partner informs him that he just ran in without anyone, response; "Oh right woops". We all laughed ourselves sick.

[SleepyHomieAria]

Sheesh people, it's not that complicated. You push the sprint button and go on with your day. If disabled people playing the game with literally one arm can properly tank dungeons so can you. This message is meant for people who get slightly annoyed or confused when they see the rest of the party ahead of them. Just press the button. In the case that a dps is using their mobility to gapclose to mobs faster than you even with sprint, then either they actually play their job at a high enough level to know to use arms length to slow the mobs for you, and/or they take a couple extra hits and the healer throws maybe an ogcd at them or something while they bring the mobs to you. It's not really a big deal. And if its timmy playing past his bedtime and feels too cool for school to bring his 2 mobs to you, then sure, feel free to grumble a bit and remind him to bring mobs to you (if you use keyboard). I'm really just over the mindset that tanking roulette dungeons takes a significant amount of brainpower and any slight to that is some cause for alarm.

Not even going to bother responding to the 'tank mains' in this thread who advocate for ypyt and 'uwu i just requeue if i get kicked my queue is so short uguuu' because I legitimately believe that its some form of mental illness.

[Packetdancer]

Yea people like that are dumb, like why wouldnt you bring any mob aggro you get into the tank aoes? It makes no sense to not stack up with the tank.

Being fair, I've seen a non-zero number of DPS just plain panic when they realize there's a mob on them rather than the tank, and try to kite it around without it even occurring to them to bring the mob to the tank because their brain has experienced an unexpected system error. This is not unique to people pulling mobs, of course. ("Why. Why did you drop the exoflare puddles on the entire party." "I PANICKED." "Okay, well, next time... panic in the other direction.")

If I'm in a dungeon and tanking and someone panics like that... if at least they're nearby while running around like they're doing an interpretive dance version of a Scooby-Doo cartoon chase sequence, I'll shift position enough to try to Provoke the mob off them. If, on the other hand, they're booking it back towards the entrance of the dungeon like they're on fire, rather than dragging everything else after them, I admit there's a point at which I write it off as that either they kill the mob and come back, or the mob kills them and it comes back (and they can respawn and rejoin us).

As I said earlier in the thread, I'll do whatever I can within reason to reclaim aggro if you wandered off with a mob... but pull a mob into an entirely different timezone and I will probably let you keep it; I'm only willing to commute so far to regain aggro.

(Especially if doing so would mean I'm dragging everything else along with me, forcing the healer and other DPS to backtrack as well.)

[Reimmi]

As a tank main (Unfortunately reaper this tier for my static)
I consider people pulling for me a challenge, i'm obviously not going fast enough, it makes me want to sprint even harder and assert dominance