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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Talk with your party members at the start of the dungeon or during as needs require to be sure everyone is on the same page, it's actually that easy. It's also so easy to establish or take back main aggro as a tank (literally one button) that anyone not doing so is purposely throwing a tantrum or playing poorly. The dungeons for the most part are designed for double pulls and any healer/tank combo has all the tools needed to handle these by 50.

    Any tank refusing to do the tasks of their role in an attempt to "punish" the other members of their party is literally breaking ToS so good luck with that. If you don't want big pulls for some reason, clearly establish that to your party and if they don't want to go along with it then simply leave. It'll save everyone the headache and reports on both sides when the conversation inevitably goes sideways due to egos, unless they start overtly harassing you.

    Posting in a bait thread, let's go
    SO BECOUSE people wont to force you and being rude you need to take a 30 min bad form DF? sounds logical to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    SO BECOUSE people wont to force you and being rude you need to take a 30 min bad form DF? sounds logical to you?
    Majority rules friendo. If the majority of the party wants to go slow then the speedrunner should bow out. You aren't being forced to do anything as you are free to leave if a party isn't meeting your desires, so yes very logical to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Majority rules friendo. If the majority of the party wants to go slow then the speedrunner should bow out. You aren't being forced to do anything as you are free to leave if a party isn't meeting your desires, so yes very logical to me.
    but you are not FREE to leave. if there be no 30 min time out then it be free, but as king as it there its any thing but free. that why people acting rude in df. as they fell they got the power to force others and treat them as trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    but you are not FREE to leave. if there be no 30 min time out then it be free, but as king as it there its any thing but free. that why people acting rude in df. as they fell they got the power to force others and treat them as trash.
    A player being tank has no right to hold a run hostage if they throw a tantrum either. So communicate and sort it out without letting your ego get bruised or leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's obviously not something that everyone simply starts doing, but learning to pull fast as a tank pretty much eliminates the need for dps or healers to pull anything. The sooner one learns this, the better.
    Completely true, learn by doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    A player being tank has no right to hold a run hostage if they throw a tantrum either. So communicate and sort it out without letting your ego get bruised or leave. .
    no one say they do. i all for talking . problem is most of the players don't even know there is a chat. what can you talk to people that cant even care to say hi at the start of a run to the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    no one say they do. i all for talking . problem s most of the players don't even know there is a chat. what can you talk to people that cant even care to say hi at the start of a run to the party.
    I won't agree with the statement that most players don't know there is a chat as it's a rather huge HUD element, though I do know a minority of players turn off the chat box. I can't speak as to how you interact with other players in dungeons but I will just say if the vast majority of your interactions result in this apparent frustration you have to acknowledge the comment element and reflect on it and think on how to improve it in the future.

    The one silver lining about Duty Support becoming a standard option is that now single-pull tanks will have a safe environment to better learn their kits and maybe one day feel confident to do the playstyle considered standard by the playerbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    I won't agree with the statement that most players don't know there is a chat as it's a rather huge HUD element, though I do know a minority of players turn off the chat box. I can't speak as to how you interact with other players in dungeons but I will just say if the vast majority of your interactions result in this apparent frustration you have to acknowledge the comment element and reflect on it and think on how to improve it in the future.

    The one silver lining about Duty Support becoming a standard option is that now single-pull tanks will have a safe environment to better learn their kits and maybe one day feel confident to do the playstyle considered standard by the playerbase.
    what i mean by that is they never use it.so it looks as they don't know its there. all i want from people is to be nice say hi at the start and we all run on. but when the first thing you get is move it slow ass. it some what not nice. may even say rude. i improve it by really go solo. i at last getting a party of 2 more before i go. save me and some Randoms lots of BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by lbr View Post
    It's boring to heal small packs.
    so you ask not force. dont pull for the tank and do not pull the tank just use the chat. ask for it and see what's up.
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