6.1 PvP: Amazing!!

[Xavier_Firbold]

As soon as people are getting curb stomped in PVP they're just *play dead'ing* in the spawn.

Certain jobs are highly overtuned while other are heavily undertuned.

It's just another rush job by the devs. Zero thought or effort has been put into it at all.

[SturmChurro]

As soon as people are getting curb stomped in PVP they're just *play dead'ing* in the spawn.

Certain jobs are highly overtuned while other are heavily undertuned.

It's just another rush job by the devs. Zero thought or effort has been put into it at all.

I haven't seen anyone blatantly grief yet, I guess I have been lucky.

[Vahlnir]

I haven't seen anyone blatantly grief yet, I guess I have been lucky.

Me neither. Usually it's zerging right back into the meat grinder for people, even if the more logical approach is to fall back and regroup. Kinda like Frontlines, except infinitely less time consuming.

[Zsolen]

SE just needs to make a decision if they want this to be casual or ranked. If they go casual, just drop the top 100 and tiers. It's not needed.

If ranked, then they need crowd control immunity, balances, better counter play, tier demotion, and a countdown system (from 3 instead of 5).

[Latarma]

they lots of balanciign tot he mode some job as people have sai are op i also thing all forms of CC, sleep, sliance fear the tank pulls that has to go as not all calss has accues to and you can stun lock people. after they gave ever one a heal and guard but not ever get a cc sleep stun

[Bookie]

the ranking system need a change.
it has to be based on ur performance, not only win or loss.
party compositions need a change too. match making should be based on same tiers

[SturmChurro]

Me neither. Usually it's zerging right back into the meat grinder for people, even if the more logical approach is to fall back and regroup. Kinda like Frontlines, except infinitely less time consuming.

I try to play the objective and do what I can as a "healer". These are definitely MUCH better than frontlines. I hate frontlines so much. I will never understand how people can actually get all the horse mounts for it.

[MintnHoney]

And not to forget WHM abusing the „Cure“ bug.

Cure Bug?
Actually, is there a listing of known bugs for PVP to date? I keep seeing people talk about new and exciting bugs, but I never see an explanation on what those bugs actually do.

[Fukuro]

Cure Bug?
Actually, is there a listing of known bugs for PVP to date? I keep seeing people talk about new and exciting bugs, but I never see an explanation on what those bugs actually do.

Well you have 2 cure charges, if you move while casting your Cure (break your casting) all your charges reset so you will have 2 again. People abuse this to heal the tank nonstop.
https://youtu.be/SV8TxHreZCc

[Dinksta]

I have a lot to say on this subject! I have been playing the PvP nonstop, and in the process I have come to a few realizations, sadly I can only say 3,000 characters per post, so it'll be broken up a bit.



So, I really like the start of these reworks, but there are some conceptual issues that make it a bit difficult to consistently enjoy. I'll mostly be talking about Crystal Conflict during this:

So, I was hooked on the new PvP, I felt like it was making the steps required to make FFXIV PvP actually positively talked about, there are some flaws, but I don't think they're unsolvable, and if they ARE solved, we could be looking at something special here, so I'm going to go down a list in bullet point style to make it easier to read, and I want to see if maybe everyone can come together and reach common ground on some changes:


First up- Crowd Control: Purify is a good start to fixing the problems of players being stuck in situations without an escape, most MOBA games have Cleanse options in them for this very reason, but Purify sadly is not enough it seems. Certain Class Combos can severely inhibit your ability to... well, play at all, and that's downright not fun. I understand it's not fun to have someone wiggle out of a stun that you specifically put on them, so here's what I think might help ease this issue a bit (programming challenge aside):

I think they should add what is known in fighting games as "staling" a move eventually goes stale if it used multiple times, losing potency. Like the mitigation that we had before in PvP, I think introducing another mechanic to prevent constant Crowd Control chains is not only a good idea, but a requirement to keep players engaged. As it stands, AST, WAR, RDM/BRD as a combination, can prevent you from being allowed to even hit a button, for an unreasonable amount of time. Silence stopping your ability to, well use an ability, and the stuns of WAR, following the AoE Slows into Binds of AST, while you're silenced is downright miserable. You can't do anything, and nobody likes that.

So, I think that stuns should lose efficiency the more a player is exposed to them, just like in PvE how you can't CC Chain Mobs repeatedly, Players should have the same luxury. How they tune it is important, but I think it is a serious issue that needs fixing.

-Next is Matchmaking: as it stands, there is what seems to be almost NO Matchmaking for Crystal Conflict, which means you don't have an even fight, even in Ranked. The enemy could have 3 tanks, and 2 DPS, your team could have ALL DPS, for a "Ranked" mode, this is inconceivable, I don't need to explain this one more, I think this NEEDS to be changed.