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  1. #1
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The quick chat options are okay, but they definitely aren't adequate for complete team coordination. They get the job done, but only if your party is actually paying attention instead of tunnel visioning some random dps and chasing them across the map, which is probably 85% of the parties I get grouped with. lol
    I generally have gotten people semi-trying to go for the objective in most of mine (a little over halfway done with the battlepass), but have still seen that happen a decent amount. It's part of the reason I suggested emoticons, plus they could make nice little in-game rewards, even as part of a reward tier.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    Played 10 games today, lost all of them really fast except 1 which was close.

    Not that I mind all that much since I still get my rewards, but it's still nice to see my luck lol. (Granted I wasn't a big help either since I didn't really look what the skills do)
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    (Granted I wasn't a big help either since I didn't really look what the skills do)
    Sounds like a „You“ problem.
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I wish healers were as fun in PvE as they are in PvP lol.
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Sophia
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.
    I solo:ed a NIN and DRG on my NIN, was first a 1vs1 NIN vs NIN then the DRG came running in.
    I legit thought the DRG was my ally at first I didn't even realize they were an enemy until after I had killed th NIN lol.
    So yeah...
    I think a lot of people are running in and aren't using their skills a lot, they're spamming their combo and then they drift off and their bigger hitting skills are just sitting on CD.

    It was the same when I played RPR on the same day, I could have three people focus me and still take one or two out I dunno wtf people are even doing sometimes.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.
    You can't "adapt" to being matched with a bunch of lemmings who think it's a good idea to repeatedly keep charging into 1v5 situations while expecting to not get instantly melted.

    As another poster mentioned, it also feels like some people just aren't using most of their buttons judging from how abnormally low their damage dealt/healed values are at the end of a match.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.
    I play Destiny 2 PvP quite heavily as well. Much like Crystalline Conflict, matchmaking is the biggest complaint most people have, with lower skill players being placed against the best in the world or matches where a single good player is matchmade with several bad players against a team of decent players. What happens is this drives away lower skilled players and those who feel they're being screwed over by matchmaking, which kills the population in the end.

    When you don't have control over who you play with and don't have the ability to carry a team solo, no matter your skill level, it's not going to feel good.

    That's honestly my biggest complaint about it.
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    When you don't have control over who you play with and don't have the ability to carry a team solo, no matter your skill level, it's not going to feel good.

    That's honestly my biggest complaint about it.
    See this here is what I mean. You NEVER have control over your team mates in ANY PVP game, the only thing you have control over is your own performance, it doesn't matter if it's FF14, League, Overwatch, D2, whatever. There are so many players in these games that statistically for every time you get 3 idiots on your team the other guy has 3 idiots on his. If you concentrate on your own game-play then you WILL climb if you improve. This isn't to say that one game feels great, it doesn't but CC addresses 90% of this issue by 1) having a pretty wide latitude to performance carry and 2) Super short matches.

    This concept has to be re-explained again and again and again in every ranked PVP game and even then people just refuse to believe it, the raging about "teammates" just goes on and on. People just can't accept that ELO works and to stop worrying about your teammates.
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    It's pretty funny seeing all the usual PVP complaints here about "my team mates are dragging me down" and "the meta sucks". People need to get out more and PVP in lots of games to unlearn all these complaints and adapt. Is every suggestion unwarranted? No, but there's a lot of "the game should be changed because I don't understand it" going on.
    I agree to a certain degree, but it is no secret that WAR for example is dominating. And not to forget WHM abusing the „Cure“ bug. On the other hand you have jobs that are basically useless atm like BLM. There needs to be some balancing, but it‘s kind of a given because the pvp changes just got released. The jobs are getting still tested, but WAR being a bit obnoxious for example is kind of obvious.
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