Lottery extended to 4/29

[sagacious]

Is this the infamous raffle I keep getting tells about?

no, it's going to be sages Fc housing opening and recruitment drive ...

[Illmaeran]

Rich people with alts (especially omni crafters) might be tempted to abuse the lottery system.

So omnicrafters are the XIV equivalent to SAO's beta testers? We're all cheaters who abuse a system to gain an unfair advantage over the people who aren't? I've been an omnicrafter since 2014 and don't have enough money for a medium size plot. Why? I like being self sufficient and enjoy crafting, but I'm not interested in making tons of money. I've got what I need to enjoy all aspects of the game and that's enough. You'd probably be surprised at how many omnicrafters are like that. I also know non-crafters who have tens or hundreds of millions of Gil. Which is worse: the poor, the potentially rich, or the filthy rich?

The answer is none of the above.

i've been saying for years that housing should be limited to 1 house per account per server and that all your alts should be able to share your house this will free up alot of multi owner houses, i dont like to complain however in a game with limited housing allowing 1 person to own an entire ward is just strait b/s

I agree, personal housing should be one single house per account, period. The time requirements for FC home ownership should be greater too; at least rank 10 and the FC master should have been in the FC for at least 90 days before being able to take possession of the plot. It would be awesome if FC house ownership were limited to one FC house per account, period. Let a player make as many FCs as they like, but that account could only ever have possession of a single FC and single personal house regardless of how many characters they across however many different servers.

I know that people who got their houses get to keep it, people who got the bug can reclaim it still. Eventually. When? Dunno :|

If you haven't read the recent updates, SE have the logs of who won all the plots, even if that data didn't get transferred to the housing server. All lotteries were correctly and legitimately run and all the people who did win them will be given their chance to take possession of the plot when the time comes; even if they refunded their deposit. This will happen sometime between now and the 29th, once they've got the error fixed.

Anyone who gets a plot from this current round will have won it legitimately. The mechanism worked correctly, it was "simply" an error in communicating the win data to the server that controls housing. Nobody's going to get a plot they shouldn't have gotten due to this bug.

I don't understand all this aggression against alts. I have 5 retainers which means my alt has five as well. Alts save me time and time is money.

Damn! Here I thought I was crazy paying for a full roster of retainers for my one gatherer/crafter. You're in a whole other league! /grovel How do you generate the ventures needed to sustain this racket?

[Edathol]

Damn! Here I thought I was crazy paying for a full roster of retainers for my one gatherer/crafter. You're in a whole other league! /grovel How do you generate the ventures needed to sustain this racket?

Quick Exploration for me, after lvl 60 they are pretty self sustainable with turning in gear to GC. Then save any of the BOE gear that don't sell for much for alts retainers you are leveling to turn in. If you do mainly quick explorations at lvl 90, you get more gear to turn in than you know what to spend it on, on top of all the other items. Especially with all 10 retainers per character.

[sagacious]

Quick Exploration for me, after lvl 60 they are pretty self sustainable with turning in gear to GC. Then save any of the BOE gear that don't sell for much for alts retainers you are leveling to turn in. If you do mainly quick explorations at lvl 90, you get more gear to turn in than you know what to spend it on, on top of all the other items. Especially with all 10 retainers per character.

no I have 4 alts with 5 retainers each that's 25 retainers for me and yes I gear them through running roulettes on each and the mats they give me are priceless not in price but in quantity. how do I have time for all this? i'm retired and the game keeps me sane against the real life dynamos ... of despair

[Illmaeran]

Quick Exploration for me, after lvl 60 they are pretty self sustainable with turning in gear to GC. Then save any of the BOE gear that don't sell for much for alts retainers you are leveling to turn in. If you do mainly quick explorations at lvl 90, you get more gear to turn in than you know what to spend it on, on top of all the other items. Especially with all 10 retainers per character.

That's what I do too. It nets enough seals to keep the ventures running and the GC loot boxes rolling in. There's nothing like making my fictional employees bust their backs to support my gambling habit. LOL!

no I have 4 alts with 5 retainers each that's 25 retainers for me and yes I gear them through running roulettes on each and the mats they give me are priceless not in price but in quantity. how do I have time for all this? i'm retired and the game keeps me sane against the real life dynamos ... of despair

My primary question was how do you generate enough venture tokens to keep them running? Is it just seals earned by turning in gear you get during your daily roulettes? If I were sending out all my retainers on hunting ventures more than once or twice a day I'd quickly run out of coins to pay them with. Every so often I'll do an hour of quick Shisui of the Violet Tides farming to get seals if I'm on a net-negative streak, but I'd rather get what I need doing things I already do, like roulettes. I agree; the value of the materials is much more than the Gil cost, it's the time saved by being able to not run FATEs all the time for the gems to buy the materials...especially leather!

[Batbrat]

There is no real chance to get a house in the end. For most people it just turns out in endless waiting without their money.

This is what makes it worse than not having a lottery in ways that people just arent understanding.
Yes, sure, it sucked having to click on the thing for hours. But at least you had that CHANCE and it would all be over within some hours. You could be doing whatever and suddenly notice a house open. and if no one else noticed it before you? You could just swoop in and take it alone. That was how I got mine! It wasnt even up for that long and no one else was around! NOW with this though...man...its forcefully up long enough that a bunch of others are going to show up and put their change in. Now no matter what, you're competing with a bunch of others-AND it's taking like a whole week lol. zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Again, 'oh wah wah but before-' yeah yeah but at least before you could be sneaky and get your way with some dumb luck. Dumb luck isnt an option anymore. Only patience, for about a million years.

[Mika_Zahard]

You get more gear per minute on Kugane Tower than shishui. And yes, that's how you do it. Make the retainers bring you hourly stuff, and turn that back into seals.

[Unredeemed]

I completely understand the extension on the housing to remediary fixes.

We were the only bidder on our plot, with a result of 0 - So long as THOSE people including ourselves get what we technically won, then by all means give it some time.


If people who technically won don't get what they did... thats going to be a total mess...

[StrongWilled]

I would honestly report this below to a GM or the RMT/Bot teams because that is crazy.

People complaining about waiting have obviously never had to deal with programming errors.

Yes they could bandaid it like they did with the 1.0 code. But look where that has gotten them so far.

I'd prefer them to take their time and just FIX the problem now, so we don't have more issues later down the track.

Next on the agenda is this though:

If you want something to complain about, start complaining about ward 2 goblet on EVERY SERVER of Materia DC.

[StrongWilled]

This is what I don't understand from this maintenance.

I know that people who got their houses get to keep it, people who got the bug can reclaim it still. Eventually. When? Dunno :|

I don't understand if people who got a refund due to the bug will still be able to get the plot, or if they'll have to wait for a 2nd round. With less houses to choose from. And more competition. Because we weren't aware a bug was going on.

They extended the lottery thing for 9 days, but no mention of a follow-up maintenance. No mention of whether people who got a refund would be compensated or just ignored.

If they did mention it, then their wording was so vague I didn't fully grasp it at the time. So I'm asking for clarification. And if that information is still vague to everyone in general, then it's fine, I'd like to know that too. I just want to understand what the situation at the moment is.

One of the recent announcements stated that anyone who removed their money due to losing to a "0" will not be negatively impacted. But they don't know how they are going to work it out yet. So, from that I would think those individuals, if they won, will still get their opportunity to finalize the house purchase.