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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darisha View Post
    Nooo why 9 days? ;-;
    Because they need to sort out the 0 bug that happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    To be honest I was always against a lottery system but a lot of people asked for that very loudly. Now we have the mess the people asked for. Now it is like I said before. There is no real chance to get a house in the end. For most people it just turns out in endless waiting without their money. And I think a lot a resellers tried to get all the good fc plots with 0 entrys. The 30 days rule is much too short. So they can still sell the houses via (fake)FCs. The person who buys it just have to wait 30 days until the process is done. A time, that too many people will just accept to wait to get their plot 'save'. Yes it's forbidden in the terms of service. But who will controll this? People will go on. I made other suggestions for the housing issue but at least they did what the majority ask for.

    And I am no fan of instanced housing, too. One of the cool things of the housing is the fact that you have those housing districts. That you can visit other people's houses and so on. In my eyes instanced housing sounds..., mmh..., how to say that..., just more lonely and boring. And it would take away a lot of value from the houses in people's mind. People are so much interested in that stuff because it's rare an special. So in my opinion we just needed two things. Some more wards and plots (or servers), because all the new players, and some new rules to stop the resellers. Now we have a system of waiting that makes it more complicated and still the reseller problem.

    But that's just my opinion. :3
    To be fair, there was no real chance for most people to get a house prior to the lottery system either. It boiled down to potentially wasting hours manually clicking a placard (exciting gameplay!), resorting to using a bot, or in rare cases, getting lucky and winning a house after a short period of time. I'm cool with the lottery, even if it does mean that a single house is going to have a ton of entries.

    And as for instanced housing, Wildstar had a cool community lot feature. You could join up with 4 of your friends and have this huge island in a single instance. Each person still got their own full-sized portion to decorate, but you could simply run over and visit your friends. You could also go visit other islands to check out their housing. I loved doing that as some people were insanely creative, unlike myself. Instanced housing doesn't have to suck or be lonely.
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    Before there was the big problem that it was almost impossible to get M and L plots because they were just sold directly, yes. But it was possible to get a plot at all. All people I know never needed longer than 2 weeks to get a plot. It was just a little bit of observing and being patient on the shild. We saw a lot of keyboard macro auto clickers evertime we camped nearby a plot with someone. But they never got the house. We really wondered about this but it was fine.

    Now you have to wait and wait and wait, without your money. You can't do much. You can try to make your entry late. But at least it's just waiting.

    I personally like the housing districts we have now. I like to walk arround there and see other people's plots.
    Instanced housing is not such a good idea. It will cost SE much resources and many people will be like 'oh yeah I have that house, but I don't do much with it'. But well..., in the end its just a game. And people like different things. That's why I said, these things are just my personal opinion. :3
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    Last edited by Heavenchild; 04-21-2022 at 02:18 PM.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Before there was the big problem that it was almost impossible to get M and L plots because they were just sold directly, yes. But it was possible to get a plot at all. All people I know never needed longer than 2 weeks to get a plot. It was just a little bit of observing and being patient on the shild. We saw a lot of keyboars macro auto clickers evertime we camped nearby a plot with someone. But they never got the house. We really wondered about this but it was fine.

    Now you have to wait and wait and wait, without your money. You can't do much. You can try to make your entry late. But at least it's just waiting.

    I personally like the housing districts we have now. I like to walk arround there and see other people's plots.
    Instanced housing is not such a good idea. It will cost SE much resources and many people will be like 'oh yeah I have that house, but I don't do much with it'. But well..., in the end its just a game. And people like different things. That's why I said, these things are just my personal opinion. :3
    The issue is no matter what system they put into the game the housing will still suck for most of the ppl because the plots are so limited. Adding more wards is just a bandaid solution because those wards will just fill up after one day and we be back to square one, with limited housing for a large number of players. You say instanced housing will cost SE resources but just adding more and more wards will also cost the same if not more resources and honest won't fix anything since the player base is, at least for right now, always growing.

    In my eyes, there are one of two ways to fix ff14 housing or at least make it better for major of the player base.
    1. Do instance housing for private ownership and maybe leave the wards just for FCs so you can keep that community feel.
    2. Improve the apartments so they can be upgraded to larger versions of themselves. Allow ppl to upgrade their small apartments to a med size or large size apartments with an outdoor area for gardening and decoration.

    There may be even more ways to make housing better but these are my fav. At the end of the day just adding wards isn't a good solution to an ever-growing problem. Again as you said this is just my personal opinion. :3
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    I am so glad that we traded a housing system that didnt work for a housing system that also doesnt work
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Nine more days till the next lottery round begins. I had heard that this maintenance would fix all the problems, but it was just an extension of time. I am currently making all kinds of furniture is preparation of the opening of my ward and I will throw the biggest dance party of all time. I will have a 500k raffle to celebrate the occasion. All are invited without prejudice.
    Where did you "hear" that, because that's not at all what was said in the maintenance announcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Don't forget when the code is fixed time needs to be given to those winners to pay the plot payment or reject the plot. Ofcourse if you kept your money in like I did just accept ...... That is included in the nine days.
    You're smarter than the average Duskwight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Where did you "hear" that, because that's not at all what was said in the maintenance announcement.
    I went to my ward and looked at my lots placard and it said next lottery will be on the 29th. I didn't just make it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Where did you "hear" that, because that's not at all what was said in the maintenance announcement.
    Go to any current ward, find a house-less plot, and click the placard.
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    People complaining about waiting have obviously never had to deal with programming errors.

    Yes they could bandaid it like they did with the 1.0 code. But look where that has gotten them so far.

    I'd prefer them to take their time and just FIX the problem now, so we don't have more issues later down the track.

    Next on the agenda is this though:

    If you want something to complain about, start complaining about ward 2 goblet on EVERY SERVER of Materia DC.



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