Lottery extended to 4/29

[Mirhd]

This is what I don't understand from this maintenance.

I know that people who got their houses get to keep it, people who got the bug can reclaim it still. Eventually. When? Dunno :|

I don't understand if people who got a refund due to the bug will still be able to get the plot, or if they'll have to wait for a 2nd round. With less houses to choose from. And more competition. Because we weren't aware a bug was going on.

They extended the lottery thing for 9 days, but no mention of a follow-up maintenance. No mention of whether people who got a refund would be compensated or just ignored.

If they did mention it, then their wording was so vague I didn't fully grasp it at the time. So I'm asking for clarification. And if that information is still vague to everyone in general, then it's fine, I'd like to know that too. I just want to understand what the situation at the moment is.

Nothing vague about it, as they mentioned what was going on in the various Follow-up posts. The maintenance was to extend the lottery period while they continue working on the 0 bug issue, which, as mentioned in Follow-up #3, could be a number of business days because they want to replicate the errors, fix them, then verify the fixes. I was hit by the bug so I get the frustration, but it would be would silly to hold another lottery while working on preventing the bug from occurring again.

[Kolsykol]

Heard from who tho?
They already said that it'd take a day to even verify the issue and then three to five days to verify that it has even been resolved but that it could take longer.

I am so glad that we traded a housing system that didnt work for a housing system that also doesnt work

Often times it's actually more difficult to build something on top of an already existing thing, it doesn't matter if it's FFXIV or WoW the devs run into a lot of problems because of how the game was built from the beginning ( in regards to FFXIV they also have to deal with it being built for consoles too, which only further limits it ).
The WoW devs have big issues even implementing housing altogether because of how the game was originally built, it's not that they don't want to add it.

The same goes for expanding on housing and adding more variables, I imagine it's probably a lot more difficult and complicated than people give credit for and they gotta work with what they have already and what time and resources they have available.
Like with the hair thing people love to point to modders but modding and officially implementing something especially server side are two completely different universes.
I think it's worth being a tad bit humble and understanding that we don't have a full view and understanding of what's actually going on, I mean people on this forum going crazy about this problem didn't even understand what the problem even was and went on giant tirades about something that wasn't even the issue.

[HisShadowX]

Wait wait wait hold up a second here, seriously?
I can understanding hating him for being a botter.... but you guys SERIOUSLY hate him because hes being charitable? You do realize just how bad that makes YOU look right? Pretty scummy to target someone for being generous....

Back on topic, always felt they need to limit housing to one per account and shared with all characters on that account (Having a FC house an exception to the 1 house rule). Sure people can make a second account, I kinda have no problem with that as they are funding the game either way.
I feel like lately SE is starting to fall out of touch with the player base, some of the decisions they are making defy logic...... Sadly... taking time to find and fix this bug.... is not one of those times.

May be defending them, but make no mistake, I want my house too! and my plot im after is locked behind the FC only rule, my FC house is the ONLY house on the entire ward lol. There weren't even any bids from other FC's on plots there during round 1.

Oh I agree in fact I always defended him. On his YouTube channel people still come at him due to his botting and giving out gold to new players. Instead of botting and just keeping it and buying plots like my old FC. E

[Heavenchild]

The issue is no matter what system they put into the game the housing will still suck for most of the ppl because the plots are so limited. Adding more wards is just a bandaid solution because those wards will just fill up after one day and we be back to square one, with limited housing for a large number of players.

But maybe the request for housing wouldn't be that strong if it's a thing that everybody easily can have. People are like this, I don't know why. There are really cool things in the game. But if they are not 'rare' they have almost no value. :/
I think a better system would be enough, together with enough space (enough servers). Before so many new people started with FFXIV there were always some free houseplots.
Even when the number of players exploded there were still free houseplots from time to time, if you observe a lil bit. When SE stops the 45 days timer, then there are almost never free plots. Because all people who never use their house keep their house.

The lottery is also easy to abuse for rich people with multiple accounts and bots. My idea was at first a 90 days of membership, before an fc member can get the lead (and become owner of the fc house).
This would make it very hard for all those resellers. And people who often hopp between fc's are also negativly affected with that 30 days. But the 30 days can't solve the problem.

Second I suggested to shorten the timer to a maximum of 8 hours. For people who wanted to buy a house new, it was so that they had almost no chance within the first hours.
So my idea was to use the first 1-2 hours for some kind of '2nd timer' for people who wanna relocate. So that they have a little timer, too.
So resellers couldn't sell the plot immediately to a relocating person. Because it can take up to 2 hours until the land can be purchased. And in this time (if it's a nice plot) other players with interest to relocate will surely show up and also try and click on the shield. :3

After the first 2 hours, the 2nd timer starts for everyone. But to a maximum of 8h until the land is ready. When there is enough serverspace, like it was in the past, then the system with the housing wards
is no problem and there will be always free plots you can try to get. The big problems were always the resellers who try to get every house just to sell it for moonprices or making gil for rmt and that the space became too less with all the new players.
In my personal opinion. :3

[Hasrat]

I think a better system would be enough, together with enough space (enough servers). Before so many new people started with FFXIV there were always some free houseplots.

Keep in mind, NA and EU have entire new data centers and worlds coming down the pipeline. Spreading everyone out should relieve the pressure again for a little while.

Truthfully, tho, probably the bigger issue is that folks keep paying RMT for this stuff.

[Avenger]

But maybe the request for housing wouldn't be that strong if it's a thing that everybody easily can have. People are like this, I don't know why. There are really cool things in the game. But if they are not 'rare' they have almost no value. :/

Having cool and desirable things that other people (or players) want but cannot get increases your social status in games and in real life.

People also become happier when they are clearly and visibly better off than someone else in some way - and therefore not at the bottom of the pecking order.

(It's also not at all surprising to see different perspectives - and sometimes outright antipathy - in the forums between different social classes in the game such as hard-core vs. casual, housed vs. homeless, PvP vs. PvE, mass market board merchants vs. small sellers, tanks vs. healers vs. DPS, veterans vs. sprouts, etc..)

It isn't always positive, but it is a reflection of how social systems tend to work.

[SilverSp]

i cant wait for a follow up post here after you realize you didnt win the plot and realize all plots will be sold and theres a chance you wont win any plot ever because its luck based completely. Then youll finally realize everyone elses frustration. I hope you win the plot but the reality is its a lottery sure you have "A" chance but i strongly believe you shouldnt have to worry about luck to get what u want in the game i believe you SHOULD be able to get a plot just as you wish without relying on "LUCK"

[Avenger]

On my server there appear to be many plots that had bids but no winner due to the zero bug, but also many plots with no bids at all and no winning number. So it looks like there may be potential to get an FC house if you don't mind a medium or a small. Also some of the larges seem to be relocations.

[sagacious]

THEY CAN STILL HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF GETTING THE PLOT, and ruin the fairness of the lottery system. You shouldn't have to bid against one persons multiple characters, or feel like you have to start working on multiple characters as fast as possible in order to get a lot. That will just make this problem worse. Stop using alts to increase your chance on a house. It's bad taste, and will make the lottery system worse if it becomes a trend.

I don't understand all this aggression against alts. Alts are a game feature and it is encouraged. Alts are a time investment and time is money if you invest your time and pay your money you should be able to gain rewards for said time invested. let me explain to you what a alt can do because I don't think yall understand alts. I have 5 retainers which means my alt has five as well. On one of my alts the retainers are all botanists level 90 and I can get 100 integral logs pr hour. I can get 600 shards pr hour. This saves me the time to go and gather this stuff saving me money. One of my alts has 5 miners, and one of my alts has 5 warriors my 5 warriors can get 100 Ophiotauros Hides pr hour and this is huge because you can't get these mats easily by seeking them out and killing them because the kill to get mat rate is so low. I couldn't be the crafter I am without my alts. I wouldn't be able to afford a house. Alts save me time and time is money.

[Juun]

I will have a 500k raffle to celebrate the occasion. All are invited without prejudice.

Is this the infamous raffle I keep getting tells about?