Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

[Dzian]

Did Meikyo Shisui not exist back then? (I started FFXIV last summer - I actually don't know).

Yup

Thanks for the reply!

"hakaze, shifu, kasha,. hakaze, jinpu, kaiten, higabana,, gekko, meikyo, yuki, kasha, kaiten, midare... was basically the start of every encounter through 5.0"

Was trying to make sense of that opener - I realize now that the missing link was Ikishoten.

Meikyo existed but it didnt apply your speed / damage buffs in 5.0 like it does currently

Not the exact sequance i used

here's an example of a 5.0 sam opener.
5 gcds and then kaiten higabana. which is basically where i estimated 12 seconds from in the earlier post.