Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
Adniteddly only recently 90 but at level 80 you pretty much did kaiten after 12 ish seconds. skill speed dependant. hakaze, shifu, kasha,. hakaze, jinpu, kaiten, higabana,, gekko, meikyo, yuki, kasha, kaiten, midare... was basically the start of every encounter through 5.0
Did Meikyo Shisui not exist back then? (I started FFXIV last summer - I actually don't know).

Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
but either way whatever the 90 opener is you'd still be pressing kaiten at the same times in every encounter
You're right, and removing Kaiten now makes that not necessarily the case because without it your kenki no longer has any interaction with your stickers. Some may approve of this change, most, it seems, do not. Having kenki actually tie into your rotation was important - without it our rotation is even simpler than it was before and kenki is just mindless Shinten spam - no need to manage it relative to your stickers, just push the button whenever you feel like it, and without Kaiten, "the button" is accurate to feel - the Shinten spam is real.