Thread: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

Originally Posted by Naoki34

It's funny that just because you take away a skill, people think it was important to look skilled.

It's a smoothing of gameplay nothing more, but don't change anything, just do it.

I'd rather have fun than spend time complaining on a forum about every gameplay change.

I don't see how you complaining about other people complaining is any different. I've even seen you do this multiple times. For the record, having a different opinion is fine. Trying to silence others for having a different opinion is not. If you have nothing constructive to say, get out.

Good thread to compile the complaints, takes effort to do so appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Naoki34

It's funny that just because you take away a skill, people think it was important to look skilled.
It's a smoothing of gameplay nothing more, but don't change anything, just do it.
I'd rather have fun than spend time complaining on a forum about every gameplay change.

There are multiple quotes, posts, threads from Samurai mains who enjoy Samurai for multiple reasons. Looking Skilled? is barely a reason that ever got put up. Aesthetics is a reason yes. And this is part of the Fun that got stolen for no good reason. Many don't even want to play SAM and rerolling some even quitting. Quite dismissive of a post.

Originally Posted by CelestiCer

There are multiple quotes, posts, threads from Samurai mains who enjoy Samurai for multiple reasons. Looking Skilled? is barely a reason that ever got put up. Aesthetics is a reason yes. And this is part of the Fun that got stolen for no good reason. Many don't even want to play SAM and rerolling some even quitting. Quite dismissive of a post.

I agree that the fun/feel of Samurai is lacking now. This is why I don't play healers (boring spam, please fix SE). We have plenty of simple jobs, why can't we have a few complex ones? Kaiten needs to return or be replaced with something.
Leveling Reaper now. Seems to have good flow so far.

Completely agree with CelestiCer
The deletion of Kaiten was and has been a detriment to the class as a whole.
The new skill doesn't even come close to adding the same layer of depth Kaiten provided.
I did give the new SAM a fair try and so far i'm dissapointed, some players will argue that one skill is not such a big deal, but in the case of Kaiten, it was, if Kaiten doesn't come back then something else needs to be added to the rotation to replace it, otherwise, just rename the Kenki bar to the Shinten bar

The only Way of finding enjoyment in Samurai Gameplay after 6.1 lies in PvP.
Seriously PvP Samurai is so much fun! It even has still Kaiten! Though I sincerely hope we do not get the PvP Kaiten in PvE, since that would be a new low of dumbing down the Game, but for PvP it works just fine now if only the PvP Battle Pass wouldn't be FOMO.. aww well..

Originally Posted by CelestiCer

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...E-doesn-t-care


Sorry if I missed anyone, this was quite the read... emotionally even... it doesn't matter the reasoning...

- Rather it's Optimized damage
- Rather it's the feel of the Rotation
- Rather it's Samurai identity Aesthetically
- Rather it's gameplay feel and satisfaction
- Rather players were in love with Kaiten

Bottom line is that many players aren't pleased
with the 6.1 SAM changes, PERIOD

Can I join please?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...tead-of-Kaiten

Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

Can I join please?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...tead-of-Kaiten

I made sure to add you, there's a 3000 character limit per post and every quote and link will add to the message limit of 3000... during the copy pasting process I think i missed a few threads cause I kept hitting that limit per post XD , I'll try to be more punctual mhm.