6.1 PvP: Amazing!!

[KageTokage]

I feel like CC is a problem when there's so much lag on Purify that a single player can potentially kill you by the time you notice you can't do anything and try to use it.

I also feel like you shouldn't be able to descend out of your current numbered tier for losing and that the win streak bonuses should be removed to compensate. There's just too much luck of draw involved in getting good team comps/players to be punishing/rewarding you extra for repeated losses/wins.

[Anhra]

This Community really needs to stop wearing their Tinfoil Hats and blame everything with the "It needs to be Balanced" Card. PvP is fundamentally different and "balance" works different there than it does compared to Raiding or other PvE content.

Every Job in its current state (PvP) has the potential to turn a Game arround for good if you know how to play. The average Player RARELY is good in PvP content on any MMO, this is nothing new and it has always been like that and as long as Online games exist, it will always be so.

Also, dont forget that PvP USED TO BE DEAD AF prior to Patch 6.1. People used to be playing Frontline, but lets be real here, how many of those People actually try to play seriously and not just to get their dose of easy EXP?
The amount of true veterans on each Server can probably be counted only by one hand and even those, are currently STILL getting used to the new changes since even they tend to do mistakes, alone from the fact on how different things are compared to back then.



Tl;dr: Victories and especially a high Ranking arent things u should be taking for granted.

[Necrotica]

This Community really needs to stop wearing their Tinfoil Hats and blame everything with the "It needs to be Balanced" Card. PvP is fundamentally different and "balance" works different there than it does compared to Raiding or other PvE content.

Every Job in its current state (PvP) has the potential to turn a Game arround for good if you know how to play. The average Player RARELY is good in PvP content on any MMO, this is nothing new and it has always been like that and as long as Online games exist, it will always be so.

Also, dont forget that PvP USED TO BE DEAD AF prior to Patch 6.1. People used to be playing Frontline, but lets be real here, how many of those People actually try to play seriously and not just to get their dose of easy EXP?
The amount of true veterans on each Server can probably be counted only by one hand and even those, are currently STILL getting used to the new changes since even they tend to do mistakes, alone from the fact on how different things are compared to back then.



Tl;dr: Victories and especially a high Ranking arent things u should be taking for granted.

There are a lot of people that hate this more than Frontline but are doing it to get the glam ASAP then never touch again. Don't fall for WoWs engagement metrics crap.

Players feeling like they have to do something does not mean it is fun.

[Duskane]

i think its fun
but god damn stun needs to be toned down

[Kolsykol]

There are a lot of people that hate this more than Frontline but are doing it to get the glam ASAP then never touch again. Don't fall for WoWs engagement metrics crap.

Players feeling like they have to do something does not mean it is fun.

That's just kinda the nature of MMO's and other games too.
A lot of people hated Eureka but I personally loved it and still do it for glam and have fun.
Same with Bozja altho Bozja was mostly boring for me visually.

[Mortime]

Unless they do an engine swap the pvp in this game will never feel as smooth or responsive as in WoW, GW2 or ESO. So yeah it is better than it was before but it is still pretty dreadful to anyone who has played pvp in other MMO's than FF14.

[Burmecia]

I'm getting my WHM butt farmed into oblivion. Not sure if I like it.

My SCH butt as well, havent dared to try my former pvp fav AST... but all the healers probs arent having their best time X__X
New mode is fun :3
But I am not very smart with pvp generally, i do not play pvp games/modes in many different games. I don't know if the reforms are healthy for pvp overall, but I've never ever felt so abused in ff14 pvp - i mean by game mechanics, not by other people.
I dare to like healing... but it is kinda hard now, gotta just pray that team forms tight enough cluster to spread adlo. And then just pray. I miss repose.

[Deceptus]

I feel like CC is a problem when there's so much lag on Purify that a single player can potentially kill you by the time you notice you can't do anything and try to use it.

I also feel like you shouldn't be able to descend out of your current numbered tier for losing and that the win streak bonuses should be removed to compensate. There's just too much luck of draw involved in getting good team comps/players to be punishing/rewarding you extra for repeated losses/wins.

Agreed. I think they need to move the rank decay to the silver rank due to the fact we are forced to queue with random players.

The odds of getting 3 wins in a row are 12.5% modified by skill. That's not very high. I think people who have ranked up so fast are doing some sort of queue manipulation.

Could be skill but with the team mates I've been subjected to it makes it HIGHLY unlikely.

This could be solved by allowing premades in ranked mode, in my opinion. I was surprised that it wasn't a thing because it's, you know, ranked and all. For casual mode and CC exp it makes sense I guess to have solo queues, even if I don't agree with it. But with ranked play it seems like a no brainer to allow premades.

Problem is that the second you do premade vs premade you will kill the short queue times we have currently. We'll be back to 30m wait times.

[hagare]

My SCH butt as well, havent dared to try my former pvp fav AST... but all the healers probs arent having their best time X__X

That's the nature of PVP. target priority number 1: Healers.
HE'S GREEN! GET HIM!!!!

[Havenchild]

I've played it so far on SCH and BLM.

SCH:

- Adlo is too weak to matter and two infrequent to even get the charges. Either this should be buffed to provide a bigger shield or give more charges of it with a lower cd. I rather them give me Excog then try to use Deployment Tactics on this weak heal. Healers overall feel alil weak but I think SCH is the worse.


BLM:

- LB should be more in line with the Melee DPS imo. 17k foul + instant casts seems underpowered compared to say DRG which is 30k+ damage + AoE. You can pretty much outheal the damage from the BLM LB with little issue and the CC still requiring the build up (Umbral I ->> Umbral III) does not compensate.
- Night Wing is a joke with the half sleep. Remove it and make it an instant sleep spell. Sleep is one of the weakest afflictions in PVP cause anyone can tap you and that's it. You can Purify Half Sleep status (4seconds) as well iirc, meaning that you have a chance of already eliminating the secondary affect on Night Wing (6k potency tapping sleeping target) before it even goes off.


The stuns are a bit much maybe last just alil too long. Sleep and Freeze have harsher diminishing returns (does not work after first use for some time) whereas I feel I'm getting stunlocked straight to death from full HP. Incredibly powerful on the Volcano map as well.