For example 4 man Ifrit takes about 1,5 minutes, 8 man Ifrit takes about 2,5 Minutes. I don't really consider that as more than a few minutes. The fight against Ultima Weapon didn't take much more time before 6.1, now it is significantly longer.



4 man ifrit is NOT listed as a trial.
Its a solo dungeon boss. Its the first instance like that, to teach you about important mechanics (focus adds).
The only reason ultima takes longer now is because its a separate encounter, and SE was trying to make it interesting. Please dont make old content more tedious than it already is.

4 man ifrit is NOT listed as a trial.
Its a solo dungeon boss. Its the first instance like that, to teach you about important mechanics (focus adds).
The only reason ultima takes longer now is because its a separate encounter, and SE was trying to make it interesting. Please dont make old content more tedious than it already is.
Ooooooooh your are totally right. It is totally NOT listed as a Trial, I guess the dementia set in for me early because this looks like it's in the trials tab. Though you are partially right, it is considered 'The Bowl of Embers' not just 'Ifrit'.
Waiting twenty five minutes in deeps queue for one forty five plus minute instance where you do nothing but watch everyone run forward and steamroll twas not good new player experience. New Ultima appears to be interesting the friends far more then the old fight ever did.
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