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  1. #21
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    Adeacia's Avatar
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I ran Prae last night myself. What a difference from the original. I didn't even know the bosses in that place had mechanics lol.

    It feels like a whole new dungeon with the layout and even changed/removed cutscenes. Going to take some getting used to for me.
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  2. #22
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    ...It feels like a whole new dungeon with the layout and even changed/removed cutscenes. Going to take some getting used to for me.
    Ah yes, speaking about getting used to

    I had a chuckle at the start. As I was on WAR I pulled the first group, and Cid ran by and zerged the teleporter.

    I wonder if that was intentional?
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  3. #23
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    Aimi Yume
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Imo not worth doing anymore at level 69 only got 1/4th of an exp bar. Guess that just removes another roulette from my daily to do list. Its rather sad because I liked the exp before.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    Imo not worth doing anymore at level 69 only got 1/4th of an exp bar. Guess that just removes another roulette from my daily to do list. Its rather sad because I liked the exp before.
    You get less because the dungeon takes much less time. The only reason the exp was so much is because it was so long.
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  5. #25
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    Aimi Yume
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    You get less because the dungeon takes much less time. The only reason the exp was so much is because it was so long.
    It still takes ages because youre not allowed to skip cutscenes. Really bad game design. Old msq was way better you had a bigger group too, to make it go faster. I guess they made it 4 player party because they knew less people would start to run it.

    Overall one of the worst changes.
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  6. #26
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    William Hart
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    You get less because the dungeon takes much less time. The only reason the exp was so much is because it was so long.
    Most people loved Prae runs rather then doing the other one because its literally sleep mode with large rewards.

    The only thing the developers did now is change this area into filler. For some reason the Ultima Weapon battle they stretched it out to go on longer like a TV Eposide thats filler to get you to the next epoisde.

    For example the Ascian Speech has long pauses now that do not make any sense. As he he is going his speech and moving on to the next line there is a bunch of dead air. When he does his seven hells speech and goes to ultima its just a very long pause for no reason.

    They stretched out this fight for no reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    It still takes ages because youre not allowed to skip cutscenes. Really bad game design. Old msq was way better you had a bigger group too, to make it go faster. I guess they made it 4 player party because they knew less people would start to run it.

    Overall one of the worst changes.
    They did this because hardcore minority players don't like people who watch cut scenes they just want to grind and repeat so they would kick users who watched the cut scenes. This is the response to that. So when the Hardcore Minority who are Mentors whine about how in leveling roulettes new players need to know how to play and yell at them to move faster instead of teaching or understanding the response typically from those people is that we should be mindful to the people who just want to get through it quickly.

    This was the same mindset that caused the cut scenes to become unskippable.
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    Last edited by HisShadowX; 04-13-2022 at 10:50 PM.

  7. #27
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Padudu Moro
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    It still takes ages because youre not allowed to skip cutscenes. Really bad game design. Old msq was way better you had a bigger group too, to make it go faster. I guess they made it 4 player party because they knew less people would start to run it.

    Overall one of the worst changes.
    I did Castrum it didn't feel like that long lol. Maybe about 20-25mins at most?? Idk about Prae.
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  8. #28
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    Mia Shino
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It takes roughly umm, 24-ish minutes now for practically the same rewards especially if doing for tomes. Friends are really enjoying the new changes and that they must actually interact with mechanics.

    For brand new players this is most good! Showing stack markers and telegraphs early will assist with learning. Much much of the better I say then the sleep inducing fights before. Nothing like grinding through ARR only to arrive at the penultimate where nothing even matters and it is always ignore mechanics o'clock. Have given Square grief in past but from response of friends who are just leaving ARR this was far better motivator for them to continue.

    Can beat Ultima weapon in fifteen minutes or less also for massive tomestone reward. May not mean much for those at higher levels but for sprouts gearing (especially alt jobs) this is huuuuuge. 500+ tomes for the cost of one third original run time means they may be more likely to run the roulette again before experiencing burnout.
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  9. #29
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    It's unfortunate it didn't happen earlier, ARR in particular is quite painful to get past for new players especially today.
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  10. #30
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Ran new Prae yesterday - much cleaner while still hitting the story beats.

    Pretty solid.
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