Why do FCs get 75% of the wards?

[Stormpeaks]

https://xivhousing.com/#november2021

Thank you.

Zodiark FC's total : 1644
Zodiark 1-10 members fc's : 920 (55%)

My original number might have been a bit too high, but it's still over half of them, being purely used either for submarines,abandoned,probably empty or used as personals with a few alts inside. My point more than stands, despite the percentage being a bit lower.

Spriggan as an example is :

2003 fcs 1-548 members
1440 fcs with 1-10 members. (which equals to 71%)

That is WAY over 50%.

Ragnarok same thing with over 50% of fc houses with 1-10 members, and this works for every world.

The biggest world being Chocobo, with a total of 2700 fc houses, and 2100 fc houses with 1-10 members. (77%)

[Shibi]

Thank you.

Zodiark FC's total : 1644
Zodiark 1-10 members fc's : 920 (55%)

My original number might have been a bit too high, but it's still over half of them, being purely used either for submarines,abandoned,probably empty or used as personals with a few alts inside. My point more than stands, despite the percentage being a bit lower.

Lucky Bancho's latest numbers are a better guide, I feel.

A submariner will have just the one character, no need for 4, as you can use them for other houses. So 396 such FCs. However, you likely need to see which of those have housing and which don't. I think the true number will be under the 396.

[Youkulm]

Lucky Bancho's latest numbers are a better guide, I feel.

A submariner will have just the one character, no need for 4, as you can use them for other houses. So 396 such FCs. However, you likely need to see which of those have housing and which don't. I think the true number will be under the 396.

This is the correct answer.

To everyone else complaining about small/shell FCs: I cannot state how many small FCs I have personally been in since 3.0 on alt characters ( FCs with less than 10 members ) who haven't even unlocked the workshop, they just want a small FC for close friends.

Small FC =/= Shell FC. That is not fair to small FCs, which are plentiful. Not everyone wants to be in a 90+ person FC.

Then to everyone complaining about empty FC houses: I see far more personal houses that are empty in wards than I do FC houses. I'm guessing people who just want the ability to say they have a house... I don't know, there is no knowing why people do things.

I'm sorry to say just because someone doesn't do what you would want to do with a house doesn't mean you deserve it more.

[LaylaTsarra]

This is the correct answer.

I also cannot state how many small FCs ( less than 10 members ) who haven't even unlocked the workshop, they just want a small FC for close friends.

Small FC =/= Shell FC. That is not fair to small FCs which are plentiful. Not everyone wants to be in a 90+ person FC.

I own small FC's on Gilgamesh, Balmung and Spriggan and although I've purchased a workshop to be complete we do not really use them. I have purchased FC's primarily to share with my alts given alts can't share a private house and to share with a few select friends. I don't want the hassle of managing a large FC.

I hope to buy a small FC on Sophia in the first round. Seems the FC/Private ward setup will at least insure that I am able to buy one I don't think it's fair to private home owners.

[Youkulm]

I own small FC's on Gilgamesh, Balmung and Spriggan and although I've purchased a workshop to be complete we do not really use them. I have purchased FC's primarily to share with my alts given alts can't share a private house and to share with a few select friends. I don't want the hassle of managing a large FC.

I hope to buy a small FC on Sophia in the first round. Seems the FC/Private ward setup will at least insure that I am able to buy one I don't think it's fair to private home owners.

Agree 100%. Large FCs can defiantly be a hassle to manage and sometimes just be in. That's why I choose small FCs for my alts on other servers, I much prefer them.

[k99]

Zodiark FC's total : 1644
Zodiark 1-10 members fc's : 920 (55%)

My original number might have been a bit too high, but it's still over half of them, being purely used either for submarines,abandoned,probably empty or used as personals with a few alts inside. My point more than stands, despite the percentage being a bit lower.

I believe you have misinterpreted the data quite incorrectly.
Every server has 24 wards, 60 houses per ward, and 4 total regions (currently).

24 x 60 x 4 = 5,760 Total houses per server (as of pre-6.1)

According to this data chart on XIVHOUSING:

ZODIARK
Zodiark is comprised of 1,644 FC houses total (All member count sizes).
This accounts for 29% of the houses as owned by FCs on the entire server.

The remaining 4,116 houses are all personal owned houses.
This accounts for 71% of all houses owned as personals on the entire server.


Spriggan
Spriggan is comprised of 2,003 FC houses total (All member count sizes).
This accounts for 35% of the houses as owned by FCs on the entire server.

The remaining 3,757 houses are all personal owned houses.
This accounts for 65% of the houses owned as personals on the entire server.



Now let us look at the absolute extreme case which is Balmung. It is most notorious for being the most overpopulated server with the highest demand for housing.

Balmung
Balmung is comprised of 2,245 FC houses total (All member count sizes).
This accounts for 39% of the houses as owned by FCs on the entire server.

The remaining 3,515 houses are all personal owned houses.
This accounts for 61% of all houses owned as personals on the entire server.

In all of the above cases, FC houses that fall within the "shell" category take only a fraction of their respective distribution which further disproves that FC housing and private sales are running rampant on a level that significantly detracts from the personal housing supply. This would support Yodada's statement on your numbers being grossly inflated.

The data falls in line consistently across most servers where roughly 30% of all houses are FC houses including potential "shell" FCs, with 70% being allocated to personal houses. As such it is safe to conclude that as of right now personal houses greatly outnumbers fc houses. Since this data has been pulled directly from lodestone, it has relatively high accuracy for a large scale representation. It is nearly impossible to know the use rate of a house since nobody can monitor a house 24/7.

[dspguy]

The data falls in line consistently across most servers where roughly 30% of all houses are FC houses including potential "shell" FCs, with 70% being allocated to personal houses. As such it is safe to conclude that as of right now personal houses greatly outnumbers fc houses. Since this data has been pulled directly from lodestone, it has relatively high accuracy for a large scale representation. It is nearly impossible to know the use rate of a house since nobody can monitor a house 24/7.

According to the Bancho survery, Balmung has about 3500 total FCs. 2,245 FCs already have houses. That leaves about 1,255 FCs without a house. Not all will qualify (size, rank, etc) but many will. 18 wards of 60 plots are FC only. That's 1,080 FC only plots for some amount less than 1255 FCs on that server. Most servers are likely going to have ratios have less than 2 to 1 when it comes to FCs without a house to FC-only plots in the new wards.

I think that is going to greatly change FC plans when the servers come up. Instead of waiting until the last minute, they would be wise to get in as many tickets from FC members as they can in order to make other FCs look elsewhere.

Whereas when it comes to private plots, wow - I wouldn't be surprised if smalls have 100 tickets and larges have upwards of 500. There's simply so few to go around. This is clearly SE's way of saying "houses were really meant for FCs or players that have been with the game since housing first came out."

[Shibi]

...I think that is going to greatly change FC plans when the servers come up. Instead of waiting until the last minute, they would be wise to get in as many tickets from FC members as they can in order to make other FCs look elsewhere. ...

Have my like, but Thinking of just the next 9 days... personally, I think there is one other strat that will slightly foul your quite valid thought.

It's going to be super smart for all homeless to put their single entry into a personal plot in round one, then in round two (no personals left) give the entry to the FC, who will then want to get as many onto the plot as possible early to scare people off.

There will still be FC houses left in round two, but all the personals will be gone.

What you say is valid, to a smaller extent in round one, round two can throw more people into this strategy.

[Mika_Zahard]

According to the Bancho survery, Balmung has about 3500 total FCs. 2,245 FCs already have houses. That leaves about 1,255 FCs without a house. Not all will qualify (size, rank, etc) but many will. 18 wards of 60 plots are FC only. That's 1,080 FC only plots for some amount less than 1255 FCs on that server. Most servers are likely going to have ratios have less than 2 to 1 when it comes to FCs without a house to FC-only plots in the new wards.

I think that is going to greatly change FC plans when the servers come up. Instead of waiting until the last minute, they would be wise to get in as many tickets from FC members as they can in order to make other FCs look elsewhere.

Whereas when it comes to private plots, wow - I wouldn't be surprised if smalls have 100 tickets and larges have upwards of 500. There's simply so few to go around. This is clearly SE's way of saying "houses were really meant for FCs or players that have been with the game since housing first came out."

I saw a small plot in crystal with over 30 entries, and im thinking: Why would you go past 4? lol