Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[Divinemights]

Their only mistake is to open house function to personal and that is it.
The other attempts just they are trying to deal with player base’s sudden change of mood.
A lot mistakes were made because they “listen” to playerbase, other mistake are release of Hrothgar and Viera, etc.

[Jojoya]

Their only mistake is to open house function to personal and that is it.
The other attempts just they are trying to deal with player base’s sudden change of mood.
A lot mistakes were made because they “listen” to playerbase, other mistake are release of Hrothgar and Viera, etc.

If they hadn't opened the mostly empty wards to personal purchase, things would have gone the way they already have - players creating shells FCs for the purpose of gaining access to a house and we would have ended up with 80% personal houses coated by a very thin veneer of FC.

The mistake was not planning for personal housing in the first place and then adding it in as an afterthought. All they needed to do was look to the other games with housing to see what players really want. Free companies (guilds/clans/fellowships/whatever the game calls their organized social groups) of course want a place for their members to be able to meet but always the demand for personal housing is much higher. It's a RPG - players appreciate their characters having a place to call home especially when most of the game play has them wandering around like vagabonds.

[Divinemights]

If they hadn't opened the mostly empty wards to personal purchase, things would have gone the way they already have - players creating shells FCs for the purpose of gaining access to a house and we would have ended up with 80% personal houses coated by a very thin veneer of FC.

The mistake was not planning for personal housing in the first place and then adding it in as an afterthought. All they needed to do was look to the other games with housing to see what players really want. Free companies (guilds/clans/fellowships/whatever the game calls their organized social groups) of course want a place for their members to be able to meet but always the demand for personal housing is much higher. It's a RPG - players appreciate their characters having a place to call home especially when most of the game play has them wandering around like vagabonds.

TLDR: I do not want to hear anything about Balmung because it is an unique problem that only exist in Balumng (get off this over crowded server for your own sake if you want a house)

Unfortunately, I do not agree with you on this as you tend to shift all blames on SE when we as players also contribute to this issue.
For a fact, majority of players do not care about Housing because decoration is not everyone cup of tea.
FF14's original plan for player housing is always FF11's Mog room style of sandbox but with more customize functions; therefore, Private Chamber is introduced at patch 2.3 (before Personal Housing Ward)
Private Chamber is also an attempt from SE to stimulate players to form FC and occupy remaining empty housing plot but it only proves the fact majority of players do not care about personal housing (even it is instanced).
Only small fraction of players cares and actually spend time and effort with Private Chamber.
I have paid visit to pretty much all house wards on Leviathan when I need inspiration to decorate my house/apartment/private chamber.
I can tell you for fact, that only few FC members actually obtained a Private Chamber in these FC occupied House.

Ward Housing only becomes popular after players recognized it as a finite resource, in another word, exclusivity.
Our nature shows no resistance towards the idea of exclusivity and that is the only main reason people feels the urge that they need a house but often left it undecorated after they obtained one.
Apartment as remedy did not work only because it is not "exclusive" and anyone can get one when they want; therefore it is lack of attraction.

Their major mistake is nevertheless that they opened this can of worms same way they did to Viera and Hrothgar (they shouldn't be playable race to begin with)
Only a game in downfall need these pointless attraction such as playable race every expansion.
Although to be honest, I think this game is not dong well at patch 2.2 and it didn't get a boost until Heavensward

[Besame]

TLDR: I do not want to hear anything about Balmung because it is an unique problem that only exist in Balumng (get off this over crowded server for your own sake if you want a house)

Unfortunately, I do not agree with you on this as you tend to shift all blames on SE when we as players also contribute to this issue.
For a fact, majority of players do not care about Housing because decoration is not everyone cup of tea.
FF14's original plan for player housing is always FF11's Mog room style of sandbox but with more customize functions; therefore, Private Chamber is introduced at patch 2.3 (before Personal Housing Ward)
Private Chamber is also an attempt from SE to stimulate players to form FC and occupy remaining empty housing plot but it only proves the fact majority of players do not care about personal housing (even it is instanced).
Only small fraction of players cares and actually spend time and effort with Private Chamber.
I have paid visit to pretty much all house wards on Leviathan when I need inspiration to decorate my house/apartment/private chamber.
I can tell you for fact, that only few FC members actually obtained a Private Chamber in these FC occupied House.

Ward Housing only becomes popular after players recognized it as a finite resource, in another word, exclusivity.
Our nature shows no resistance towards the idea of exclusivity and that is the only main reason people feels the urge that they need a house but often left it undecorated after they obtained one.
Apartment as remedy did not work only because it is not "exclusive" and anyone can get one when they want; therefore it is lack of attraction.

Their major mistake is nevertheless that they opened this can of worms same way they did to Viera and Hrothgar (they shouldn't be playable race to begin with)
Only a game in downfall need these pointless attraction such as playable race every expansion.
Although to be honest, I think this game is not dong well at patch 2.2 and it didn't get a boost until Heavensward

I also mainly blame SE for it's feckless and inept housing creation. This company is well aware of what it takes to ensure the playerbase cannot cheat to get what they want. They are on an ongoing purge of cheaters and while bots and sellers still make up about 25% of the sub base, they are pretty good at doing regular sweeps to keep the game playable for all. Cheaters gonna cheat and after 30 years, I have seen in MMOS that there are plenty of them. SE needs to attempt to keep them at bay even if they have to yank the whole housing system and redo it as instanced so every player can have equal chance to purchase a home if they wish rather than the continual, ridiculous band aid fixes that simply do not hold water.

[Divinemights]

Irony is you already said yourself that cheater is going to cheat and SE is already sweep these cheaters on regular base
There is no Housing crisis and everything is about The Psychology Of Exclusivity and how it affect players mind
The fear of missing out is to to describe the fear of missing out on certain events or activities, I this case Ward Housing as finite resource
You are also experience that same fear or disappointment when you’re deliberately left out, without making that decision for yourself
When you feel you have limited access to anything, you’re bound to focus more outward instead of inward.
You’ll be more focused on the exclusivity of the situation, rather than focusing on who you are, what you really want, and why that exclusivity bothers you.
This is probably why people ignored Private Chamber and Apartment because these two instanced house offers no exclusivity
Like I said, if you do not have a decorated Private Chamber and/or apartment prior to this, decoration is not your cup of tea.
You are simply trapped by the fear of missing an exclusive event

[Nepentha]

Irony is you already said yourself that cheater is going to cheat and SE is already sweep these cheaters on regular base
There is no Housing crisis and everything is about The Psychology Of Exclusivity and how it affect players mind
The fear of missing out is to to describe the fear of missing out on certain events or activities, I this case Ward Housing as finite resource
You are also experience that same fear or disappointment when you’re deliberately left out, without making that decision for yourself
When you feel you have limited access to anything, you’re bound to focus more outward instead of inward.
You’ll be more focused on the exclusivity of the situation, rather than focusing on who you are, what you really want, and why that exclusivity bothers you.
This is probably why people ignored Private Chamber and Apartment because these two instanced house offers no exclusivity
Like I said, if you do not have a decorated Private Chamber and/or apartment prior to this, decoration is not your cup of tea.
You are simply trapped by the fear of missing an exclusive event

I find that most people already have an apartment and/or an FC room. (Can't get an FC room if your FC doesn't have a house, mind you.) But you can't use outdoor decor in an apartment/FC room. You can't do gardening except in a few pots that grow one plant at a time. Some people want more than a box of a room to decorate. There are many reasons people desire housing, and I hesitate to drop them all into one opinion box and label it with "Fact" in black sharpie.

[Jojoya]

Unfortunately, I do not agree with you on this as you tend to shift all blames on SE when we as players also contribute to this issue.
For a fact, majority of players do not care about Housing because decoration is not everyone cup of tea.

Ultimately, the blame does lie with SE because the system is one of SE's design. The player contribution to the problem is very small because it's only a very small number of players exploiting the loopholes in the system for personal gain. Most are trying to engage with the system as intended.

Where are you getting this "fact" that the majority of players do not care about housing? Have you individually polled every single player to get this information?

Right now, the system doesn't even accommodate the minority when you take into account how the available plots are open equally to FCs and individuals.

i think many forget that all those mutli boxer will bid with every char they have, at the same and at all open plots, their chance to get the housing plot via lottery are way higher
they will only lose a little more gil if they win multiple plots

the biggest problem is an will be all those mutliboxer player and mutli account/alt users that hoard whole districts with two player FCs ..........
this screens are from Spriggan - Chaos
and district 20 came after the limit with 1 privat and 1 FC house per account ................

While the new system doesn't cut out RMT and multiple house owners, it's not going to be as easy to acquire multiple plots going forward as you make it sound.

The RNG of the lottery itself is going to be a big hindrance, especially as the initial supply of houses dry up and we're down to a few plots available per lottery period. Having 50 entries isn't much advantage if you're competing against 1000 others.

Sigh.

It's a difficult comparison to make, because at the time those houses were purchased, Spriggan was a dead server. All those plots had devalued to their lowest price. I won't drag morality into it because everyone has their own opinions, but you can't compare the ownership of entire wards that were bought under weird circumstances with what is going on now.

SE is the one who decided all FC members can buy tickets, so perhaps you can ask them to rethink that idea.

(I find it interesting everyone drags the <Lucis> FC but never mentions the <Moon> FCs on Mateus anymore, or other ward owners. Nothing but an amusing observation on my part with this tangent.)

People bring up the ones they're most familiar with. Not to mention that Mateus was done long before the 4.2 housing changes while the Lucis set up was done entirely after since Spriggan was a new world.

But you're right that those aren't the only ones. I saw a lot of similar set ups when I was doing a world wide census back in 2019. Didn't matter where I was, every data center and most worlds had similar set ups operating in at least one ward if not two or three. When you see the ward filled with FCs using the same tag and that were established after January 2018, you know you're looking at someone abusing the system.

I would call this fixation on Spriggan unhealthy. They were bought under other circumstances back in the past (dead server, no buying restriction etc). You should better invest your time in blaming at Square for the minimum of supply.
Or better blame the Board of Square for collecting money from FFXIV and invest it in failures like Avengers etc. instead of reinvesting it in FFXIV.

What comes next that its all a conspiracy of the Illuminati that all Houses are now favour FCs instead of Personals?

Spriggan (and Twintania) might have had a surplus of available houses at the time but the rules were still already in existence. One personal and one FC house per world per service account. I highly doubt there's a separate service account for each of those houses.

It is a fair system, also bye bye you lame botters!!!

The use of a bot program might no longer be necessary but all those characters still exist and will still be entering into the lottery.

If you think this is a fair because it's a lottery, congratulations.

While I was turning in my GC seals (was a guildless sprout), I had someone who whispered me asking if I could help him gather signature cuz they wanted to form an FC and will send some gill. I agreed and he paid me 10k gills afterwards. Then he asks if I want to do it some more. Back then I didn't know, I was just happy getting 100k gill for doing nothing.

I guess he was getting ready for today patch

Very likely. RMT isn't dumb. They watch for opportunity and plan ahead.

[Yodada]

Spriggan (and Twintania) might have had a surplus of available houses at the time but the rules were still already in existence. One personal and one FC house per world per service account. I highly doubt there's a separate service account for each of those houses.

Maybe you should ask them then? Its pretty simple. And to be honest its a nice Ward to look at once its finished decorating. I would suggest to visit it the future.

Back to your reply. 8 FC Houses per World are possible. You can now extrapolate how many Accounts the Lucis Guy is paying for. I mean if he wants to spend this money who am I to judge it. I spend more money on Vinyl per month so it doesnt matter if he wants to pay for 8 Accounts per month if its his hobby.

And yes for Spriggan and Twintania when the Server got implemented it was under the already 1 Perso / 1 FC Rule but you could still went to the plots and buy them even if you already owned a house on this world. Funny isnt it?

Thats a fact which we cant deny. Maybe it wasnt enforced for both Servers back then. Oversight from Square? Possible. Cheap Coding for the Check? Also Possible.
My personal guess is that the certain Rule will be only enforced once a certain percentage of all plots are sold on a Server. Till then the Check isnt in place to buy more than one House.

Maybe someone on the OCE Data Center is gonna try it for science. We'll have to see what happens with the dead OCE Servers in the Future.