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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    There are ways for the game to play easier for you while increasing the difficulty. And that would simply be to give us an option to make combos a single button press vs 2 or 3 different button sequences. I know every one hates add ons, but dalamud apparently does have that feature and may assist you.
    Let me see if I have this straight. You want the developers to make this game harder past the point where somebody like me can complete the MSQs and your solution is to force me to try and find some kind of third party add-on in order to be able to play the game? What a thoroughly uncharitable person you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Let me see if I have this straight. You want the developers to make this game harder past the point where somebody like me can complete the MSQs and your solution is to force me to try and find some kind of third party add-on in order to be able to play the game? What a thoroughly uncharitable person you are.
    Not to mention that it essentially screws console players because, like it or not, this game does have people that play on PS4/PS5 and, to my knowledge, they don't have add on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Let me see if I have this straight. You want the developers to make this game harder past the point where somebody like me can complete the MSQs and your solution is to force me to try and find some kind of third party add-on in order to be able to play the game? What a thoroughly uncharitable person you are.
    No I said that is a option that may help you as it is a feature that should already be in the game but the devs do own things to address button bloat over looking at common features people use add ons for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    No I said that is a option that may help you as it is a feature that should already be in the game but the devs do own things to address button bloat over looking at common features people use add ons for.
    Button bloat is not the problem for me. My condition flares up when I get sensory overload. This happens in fights that are packed full of mechanics. My nervous system then begins to short circuit and I lose some motor control. This makes doing high end content like raids and savage fights impossible for me. However, I really don't mind that I can't do that content. It's good that it is there for people who like more challenge and can handle it. There is still plenty more for me to have fun with. If some of you were to have your way though, even the content that I currently enjoy, including the MSQs, could very well become out of reach.
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    @eraden

    Think the new trust system helps you? My wish for the game is that people who want easy can have two options. One is that you can advertise people to carry you which comes with uts own challenges but still possible and two being able to solo msq and dungeons with trusts where even if with trusts its challenging at least the solo playstyle lets you complete it at your own pace. And to make non trusts harder by allowing bosses to actually live past 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildTamarind View Post
    @eraden

    Think the new trust system helps you? My wish for the game is that people who want easy can have two options. One is that you can advertise people to carry you which comes with uts own challenges but still possible and two being able to solo msq and dungeons with trusts where even if with trusts its challenging at least the solo playstyle lets you complete it at your own pace. And to make non trusts harder by allowing bosses to actually live past 5 minutes.
    The trusts definitely help. However not all trials can be done with trusts. Some are solo and the Venat fight was so packed with mechanics that it took me several days and countless attempts to try and get it done. I had to wait for a time when my condition was at it's least in order to even have a chance. That was done on the easiest mode as well. I realize I am something of an outlier here, but so far, the game has been playable for me with the options at hand. To make all of the content more difficult would almost guarantee that I would no longer be able to play, as access to new zones is locked behind the MSQs (my preferred playstyle in this game is gathering).
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    @eraden well I dont want to it to come to that where you cant play. But I do want it to be harder. I feel trusts should be current difficulty and non trusts should be difficulty when the content was new or maybe a little harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildTamarind View Post
    @eraden well I dont want to it to come to that where you cant play. But I do want it to be harder. I feel trusts should be current difficulty and non trusts should be difficulty when the content was new or maybe a little harder.
    Or, hear me out on this wild idea. They could just create an entirely separate system at the end-game that caters between normal and extreme, without relying on methods that result in creating difficulty at the expense of taking away from the multiplayer experience for individuals that aren't as adequate, yet still, seek a multiplayer experience.

    It should be a case of. If you wish to do harder content that sits at a tier between normal and extreme, as a way of preparing you for said content then you should be able to do so simply by developing another difficulty. It should not be a case of: Well if you can't do the content, or if you want to play easier then you should be relegated to a single-player experience.

    I sympathize, really. But relegating people who want to play easier or have a more relaxed experience shouldn't be relegated to a single-player experience. It's not really a good methodology or approach to adopt. Why not simply reincorporate what they did with ARR(?) Optional hard-mode dungeons/trials, albeit scaled a little higher aren't tied to the story at all.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-09-2022 at 04:15 AM.