the normal content is too easy

[Ath192]

That was exactly my point. Players doing Thordan in 2022 aren't jaded FFXIV vets who are bored with the mechanics. They're perfectly happy with how it is. Players are still struggling to complete some job quests. I've had my share of wipes. Just the other day, I failed a Black Mage quest because I didn't see the giant meteors that spawned a golem who punched really hard. The lesson was learned. There was an easy mode option, but I didn't take it. I tried it again and succeeded. It felt great. The game is just fine. I didn't feel hollow and empty because the meteors were predictable and telegraphed. The difference between the job quest difficulty now and when you started is that you've gotten much better at the game than you were as a total noob to MMOs.

So why do we have noobs quitting? I have 2 friends quit on me personally after they couldnt find anything fun about the gameplay in all of ARR and beginning of HW. Gameplay. Not story.

[HyoMinPark]

So why do we have noobs quitting? I have 2 friends quit on me personally after they couldnt find anything fun about the gameplay in all of ARR and beginning of HW. Gameplay. Not story.

Basically this. I’ve seen several complaints from new players about how boring gameplay is at the lower levels. From the forums to in Cactuar’s Novice Network.

[Ath192]

Basically this. I’ve seen several complaints from new players about how boring gameplay is at the lower levels. From the forums to in Cactuar’s Novice Network.

Heck, I would've quit too. NGL. I had the blessing of playing most of the content of this game as it was coming out and fresh because the experience was more challenging and fulfilling. We have people coming into this game who have to spend dozens of hours hitting 2 buttons on their hotbar with vets not even saying a word to them and bulldozing through content regardless of whether they die or get left behind.

If anything I think the current nerfed content is catering to jaded old vet players who dont want to talk or teach people and just want to watch youtube while they grind their tomestones for crappy rewards over and over again. And they don't want to bother themselves having to explain any mechanics or interacting with noobs so they can be part of the team and clear content together just because they themselves have already done it before.

That doesn't sound like fun to me. I don't think it sounds like fun if I were a noob. It's just depressing. If I described it to you this way before you bought it would you still buy this game? And the thing is I wouldn't be lying to you.

[Jojoya]

So why do we have noobs quitting? I have 2 friends quit on me personally after they couldnt find anything fun about the gameplay in all of ARR and beginning of HW. Gameplay. Not story.

What previous gaming experience did your friends have and which genres did they prefer?

That's where some of the problems come in. Some new players have extensive gaming experience when they start this game. Some have none.

Or it could be your friends just don't like the "JRPG in a MMO" experience regardless of what games they've played in the past.

[Ath192]

What previous gaming experience did your friends have and which genres did they prefer?

That's where some of the problems come in. Some new players have extensive gaming experience when they start this game. Some have none.

Or it could be your friends just don't like the "JRPG in a MMO" experience regardless of what games they've played in the past.

Lifelong gamers really, played MMOs like DAOC, Aion, super mario RPG was one of their favorites, sometimes shooters, league, ARK, some FFs, just got done with Elden ring, sometimes strategy games, huge fans of pokemon, zelda. They watch anime. They're not the discriminatory type when it comes to games.

But you know after they played a good 50 hours or so they just stopped logging on and when I asked they told me it was boring AF. I told them it got really good later and they told me they shouldn't have to put in hundreds of hours to see a good fight. I didn't push them any further they were gone.

I can probably tell you if the roulettes were min ilvl and maybe we had the original experience of the ARR expert dungeons and Crystal Tower, WoD they wouldve found it fun. But they just ran following the crowds that barely moved and just spammed buttons in the raids and all they did in dungeons was spam their 3 or 4 buttons and nothing was ever dangerous per se.

Quite honestly as we played the amount of excuses I kept having to make for the game even made me realize wow.... this sucks for new players.

[Digit4lC4m]

I can probably tell you if the roulettes were min ilvl and maybe we had the original experience of the ARR expert dungeons and Crystal Tower, WoD they wouldve found it fun. But they just ran following the crowds that barely moved and just spammed buttons in the raids and all they did in dungeons was spam their 3 or 4 buttons and nothing was ever dangerous per se.

Make all duty roulettes apply min ilvl would probably be the easiest solution. Running through dungeons which pose no challenge is a sleepfest, I've lost count of how many times I've dozed off mid-dungeon then awake and find myself running into the wall.

[hagare]

Make all duty roulettes apply min ilvl would probably be the easiest solution. Running through dungeons which pose no challenge is a sleepfest, I've lost count of how many times I've dozed off mid-dungeon then awake and find myself running into the wall.

I think you need to see a doctor

[Digit4lC4m]

I think you need to see a doctor

I did, the doctor told me to stop wasting his time and kicked me out after I told him I am The Warrior of Light and have the tendency of running into impassable object.

In all seriousness, though, I fell asleep while the W key was still being pressed, sometime spamming the AOE even after all the mobs are dead. My party probably thought I was botting lol.