Hissatsu: Kaiten

[BaconBits]

Seeing the shoe on the other foot for once does give me a sense of... What's that word again?

Ah yes, schadenfreude.

[Acece]

When you switch from healer to samurai in endwalker and yoshi p dumbs down samurai

[BaconBits]

When you switch from healer to samurai in endwalker and yoshi p dumbs down samurai

Just play Black Mage.

It won't get dumbed down/mutilated unless Yoshi-P develops a sudden case of arthritis in his fingers or something.

[KokaSokaLoka]

When you switch from healer to samurai in endwalker and yoshi p dumbs down samurai

I'm gonna need you to switch mains, I'm sure you understand Thanks!

[whitemoonflower]

Next thing you know, they’ll remove MNK’s Form Shift. SAM can function without Hissatsu: Kaiten just as MNK can function without Form Shift, but both are core components of their respective job’s identity. If they're going to blame button bloat, condense actions instead of removing non-issues.

[IdowhatIwant]

Yoshi P: "We butchered another class. Please look forward to it."

[Gemina]

i must truly give out my deepest condolences to all who are now experiencing a fraction of what playing a healer feels like every expac.
honestly.
nobody deserves such treatment.

And what exactly do you mean by this statement? Even if I am to take it at just face value, I see no benefit to shifting the problematic square back over to healers. We can look at job design changes in general, but I am currently under the impression that this topic pertains to Kaiten; the decision to remove it; possible alternatives, etc. If I am to zoom out, and look at the issue from a bird's eye perspective, the victimhood of the game's healers is not something that should be encouraged to bleed over to the DPS role, and any that already has is too much.

Fact of the matter is that if you continue to play a healer, SAM, or anything else for an entire expansion despite the job/role not meeting your approval, you send the exact opposite message. That is on no one but the players themselves.

If you want to vent, by all means vent; but SE didn't run over anyone's dog trying to chase down a squirrel.

[Kyrj]

And what exactly do you mean by this statement? Even if I am to take it at just face value, I see no benefit to shifting the problematic square back over to healers. We can look at job design changes in general, but I am currently under the impression that this topic pertains to Kaiten; the decision to remove it; possible alternatives, etc. If I am to zoom out, and look at the issue from a bird's eye perspective, the victimhood of the game's healers is not something that should be encouraged to bleed over to the DPS role, and any that already has is too much.

Fact of the matter is that if you continue to play a healer, SAM, or anything else for an entire expansion despite the job/role not meeting your approval, you send the exact opposite message. That is on no one but the players themselves.

If you want to vent, by all means vent; but SE didn't run over anyone's dog trying to chase down a squirrel.

And what happens when no one wants to play healer then? Oh wait...

[ASkellington]

Fact of the matter is that if you continue to play a healer, SAM, or anything else for an entire expansion despite the job/role not meeting your approval, you send the exact opposite message. That is on no one but the players themselves.

Dropping the job because you don't like how it plays doesn't mean anything and doesn't change anything.

[Ryaz]

My problem is that they said they did it for action bloat. The problem is that there are many others ways they could reduce button bloat without removing Kaiten. Combine Shoha 1 and 2 or Guren and Senei.