PvP Rewards New and Old - Why repeat past mistakes?

[Ath192]

Have you considered that the alternative might not be new content but nothing at all?

It is zero additional work to re-run an old event or give people continued access to a digital item that has already been designed and added to the game. They can afford to re-run events more easily and often than they can make new ones, and they can repeat them on whatever schedule they like.

When they do bring back things like the FFXV event, it doesn't displace new content but provides the "end-of-patch dead period" entertainment in place of the usual moogle tomestone collectathon.

Actually believe it or not the garo gear went away because the license deal expired. So there was work involved in bringing it back. And you’re a bit naive to think it doesn’t displace new content. The alternative is not nothing at all. That’s really sad if you think that way.

At least people seem to acknowledge what this was though, a copy and paste event. Because it was easier. And yep, that’s what we have. Look forward to everything being copy and paste in the future. We get more and more reused gear and assets each expansion anyway.

As long as people can rationalize it away and be happy with less then that’s exactly what they’ll give us. Less. It’s easier.

[Ath192]

Or they could just keep designing new content that doesn't go away for no reason. It's almost like we can both get what we want no problem at all. That's the whole point of this thread. Both complaints are valid, and the solution is stupidly obvious. You can't blame FOMO for lack of new content, it's a simple easy button they can press to keep people engaged for a short while. I'm sure this is on purpose in some cases to shore up a content drought with something, anything. Again I will repeat it, both are bad. Your solution only serves to perpetuate another problem.

I slightly disagree. Time sensitive content adds hype and excitement to the game. Much like exclusivity does. It works that way in the real world as well. So if they just add gear to the game and it never goes away it removes the incentive to do it to begin with.

I know I work that way. I still have level 1 quests I never did because I can always go back. There’s also a headgear piece locked in Rhalgers reach behind a quest I will get to some day and have been saying as much since stormblood.

While having everything available all the time instead of creating special events that come and go would not be the worst thing it’s also kind of boring. I think what you view as a problem I view as a feature.

I think your anger stems from wanting to have everything at all times to make FOMO not a thing; but I think the problem lies within you personally, by not admitting FOMO serves a function and being okay with loss. You just missed out, not a big deal. Maybe it will encourage you to be present for the next event = more hype and sub money for the game = more money for the developer.

Meanwhile people who did show up get something to flex, and people LOVE doing that…

[Iscah]

Actually believe it or not the garo gear went away because the license deal expired. So there was work involved in bringing it back. And you’re a bit naive to think it doesn’t displace new content. The alternative is not nothing at all. That’s really sad if you think that way.

Conversely, I think it's naive to think that if they never reused old content, that would mean they can produce new content at the same rate instead. The production costs would have to be redirected from elsewhere in the game.

GARO is an exception to the usual rule of returning events, which are mostly... well, we only have three others, but two of them are Final Fantasy property and don't need licensing.

[hagare]

Time sensitive content adds hype and excitement to the game.

ew FOMO.
I have enough mobile games for that xD

[Zetlin]

I slightly disagree. Time sensitive content adds hype and excitement to the game. Much like exclusivity does. It works that way in the real world as well. So if they just add gear to the game and it never goes away it removes the incentive to do it to begin with.

I know I work that way. I still have level 1 quests I never did because I can always go back. There’s also a headgear piece locked in Rhalgers reach behind a quest I will get to some day and have been saying as much since stormblood.

While having everything available all the time instead of creating special events that come and go would not be the worst thing it’s also kind of boring. I think what you view as a problem I view as a feature.

I think your anger stems from wanting to have everything at all times to make FOMO not a thing; but I think the problem lies within you personally, by not admitting FOMO serves a function and being okay with loss. You just missed out, not a big deal. Maybe it will encourage you to be present for the next event = more hype and sub money for the game = more money for the developer.

Meanwhile people who did show up get something to flex, and people LOVE doing that…

Why would you turn this back on me when it is the job of the developers to make good content that I will be hyped for because the content is good on its own merit. Content that is challenging and rewarding to flex because I achieved something that another player could not because I am better than them, not because I came to this game before them. Using FOMO to pump up numbers on new content, push subscriptions, encourage player interaction, push sales on shop items you missed out on, and the list goes on. Why is the fault with me when my only request is for good content that the developers can stand by and that I will be happy to purchase from them without the threat of it disappearing? What is this world we are living in where we have existed with FOMO being the norm and okay for so long it's a crazy proposition that development teams not rely on it.

[Zetlin]

But the glam / mounts ARE the trophies.. thats why they're exclusive. Didn't win the trophy oh well..

The other thing is all those glams and trophies have a significance or a value. They represent something. If you didn't do the thing you shouldn't get the trophy.

It's not FOMO or whatever its just normal. Hey my grandad got a ton of medals in ww2. I missed out on them because I wasn't alive at the time so can I get them now please.

Totally undermine everything my grandad did to earn them by just getting the same medals given to me for mo reason other than I want them

No different to this player got a cool trophy item from this content that was around at a time I didn't play so can I have it now please...

It's not fomo its entitlement.

My sides. This is the best you could come up with? Just when you thought you've seen it all. If anything, thanks for participating.

[Colino]

But what about the people who only start playing the game 9+ months later and would have liked to own it, and would take it out of their wardrobe if they could get it in there at all?
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I totally get that, but there's already an absolute ton of content they would never be able to own including regionally locked items, first edition print stuff etc. etc.

[Dzian]

My sides. This is the best you could come up with? Just when you thought you've seen it all. If anything, thanks for participating.

You may not like it but it's true. The glams / mounts / minions etc are all trophies. And as such are intended to keep there significance or meaning. This is why they were made rare / limited in the first place...

It's the same principle behind locking the glamours behind ultimates. Because just like pvp. Those glamours ARE the trophies. And the devs have said many times that they will never hand them out because doing so destroys there significance and what they represent.. Same goes again for things like the legacy tattoo and chocobo... they stand for and represent something. So they will not just make them available to everyone just because they want it.

So if you weren't there or didn't do the thing.. Then nope. You can't have the shiny thing. stop being selfish.

[Ransu]

You should try acquiring empathy for the feelings of many thousands of players that fear missing out on something they PAY for in a videogame. Imagine thinking you can just say that someone's experience and feelings are so invalid they doesn't even exist. To put it bluntly anything less than what we've paid for is an insult to you, me, and anyone that comes to this game in the future.

Empathy isn't real. Its just a form of narcissism.

[Canadane]

You should try acquiring empathy for the feelings of many thousands of players that fear missing out on something they PAY for in a videogame. Imagine thinking you can just say that someone's experience and feelings are so invalid they doesn't even exist. To put it bluntly anything less than what we've paid for is an insult to you, me, and anyone that comes to this game in the future.

The thing about an MMO is it's more "alive" than an offline game is. You're going to miss out on things as time advances, and that's just the nature of these games.
In fact, the idea that 'everyone should be able to get everything' is absolutely crazy to me. Everything would be dull and unchanging in that regards.