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    Eraden's Avatar
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
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    Sorry to burst your bubble but I still support the Lottery. I know full well that my odds of getting a house are pretty grim but we ALL have the same odds. What those of us who wanted the Lottery, was a fair system. The Lottery is it. I have no complaints about that. Where I DO have complaints is simply the sheer paucity of plots. That has nothing to do with the Lottery. It has everything to do with SE not wanting to pony up more resources to create more supply.
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    Valfreyja's Avatar
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    Valfreyja Dis
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    Zalera
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Technically, only Personal Houses were "everyone has the same odds".

    For Free Companies, it is nothing like that.

    Large Free Companies with a lot of wealth can stack the odds in their favor with the lottery system as it is.
    It's painfully easy for a large free company to raise millions of gil. And they can have dozens of bids on a Small FC plot, stacking the odds in their favor.

    While it's not as common, the same can be done for Medium or Large plots as well.

    I should know. I fixed up a spreadsheet and tracked the Large plots twice this past week. First on Wednesday, and then after marking off all those with 7+ bids, I went back on Friday.

    I identified the remaining plots with only 1-bid on each. I found the plot among those with the least bids across all wards.
    I found the ward with the least overall bids with that plot.

    I bid on that plot 4 times and nobody else bid after me. My four 47.5 million gil bids vs the single bid that was placed down first.

    And I won it. Was it fair? Not really. The odds were 80% in my favor because it was 4-to-1.

    People simply don't realize that supply isn't all that easy.
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    Wolfenrir Bellveil
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valfreyja View Post
    Technically, only Personal Houses were "everyone has the same odds".

    For Free Companies, it is nothing like that.

    Large Free Companies with a lot of wealth can stack the odds in their favor with the lottery system as it is.
    It's painfully easy for a large free company to raise millions of gil. And they can have dozens of bids on a Small FC plot, stacking the odds in their favor.

    While it's not as common, the same can be done for Medium or Large plots as well.

    I should know. I fixed up a spreadsheet and tracked the Large plots twice this past week. First on Wednesday, and then after marking off all those with 7+ bids, I went back on Friday.

    I identified the remaining plots with only 1-bid on each. I found the plot among those with the least bids across all wards.
    I found the ward with the least overall bids with that plot.

    I bid on that plot 4 times and nobody else bid after me. My four 47.5 million gil bids vs the single bid that was placed down first.

    And I won it. Was it fair? Not really. The odds were 80% in my favor because it was 4-to-1.

    People simply don't realize that supply isn't all that easy.
    Wait, you could actually bid multiple times for the same house?

    Edit: Nvm you and your fc did it, I get it now, my bad.
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    Last edited by Wolfenrir; 04-19-2022 at 08:59 AM.

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    Mihari's Avatar
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    Ayumi Mihari
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfenrir View Post
    Wait, you could actually bid multiple times for the same house?
    Yes, for FCs.

    Multiple FC members can bid on the same and also different houses. If the FC won several houses, they have to decide for one. Therefore, chances for bigger FCs are much more higher.
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Sorry to burst your bubble but I still support the Lottery. I know full well that my odds of getting a house are pretty grim but we ALL have the same odds. What those of us who wanted the Lottery, was a fair system. The Lottery is it. I have no complaints about that. Where I DO have complaints is simply the sheer paucity of plots. That has nothing to do with the Lottery. It has everything to do with SE not wanting to pony up more resources to create more supply.
    At its core this is the problem. From the very start SE was always limited by there resources to provide enough housing for much of the player base. Its also why inventory space and a glamour system is lackluster. ( least we got something after what 9 years..Should be like the WoW transmog system imo)
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