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    HayaW's Avatar
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    Late Fees
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 1

    Hissatsu: Kaiten

    Is anyone else disappointed that this action is being removed? Im not a numbers person, nor do I understand what changes are good/ bad for a job, but Hissatsu: Kaiten looks really cool... I mean it looks super cool

    And that has to count for something, right?!
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    Charming Tulip
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HayaW View Post
    Is anyone else disappointed that this action is being removed? Im not a numbers person, nor do I understand what changes are good/ bad for a job, but Hissatsu: Kaiten looks really cool... I mean it looks super cool

    And that has to count for something, right?!
    it only exists to punish if you mis-count your Kenki and use one too many of the oGCDs, as it's only useful before an Iaijutsu or Ogi Namikiri.
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    MagicalChase's Avatar
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    Emilie Castan
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HayaW View Post
    Is anyone else disappointed that this action is being removed? Im not a numbers person, nor do I understand what changes are good/ bad for a job, but Hissatsu: Kaiten looks really cool... I mean it looks super cool

    And that has to count for something, right?!
    You saw how they removed all complexity from summoner? That's the cannary in the coal mine. Every job is getting that treatment. Every job will become so simple that newborns could play it. People will defend it by saying "but the damage is now added to the skill alwasy" yeah and it feels worse to play. This is the future of ffxiv.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagicalChase View Post
    You saw how they removed all complexity from summoner? That's the cannary in the coal mine. Every job is getting that treatment. Every job will become so simple that newborns could play it. People will defend it by saying "but the damage is now added to the skill alwasy" yeah and it feels worse to play. This is the future of ffxiv.
    That sounds like a pretty good future to be honest. Complexity for the sake of complexity doesn't add anything of value to the game and new summoner is some of the most fun I've had in a while.
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    I absolutely understand where you are coming from, but complexity can make something feel rewarding; like solving a puzzle.
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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'm trash that's all in for easier classes to enjoy. There are games out there dedicated to steep learning curves and classes with difficulties. Let me just fast spam some skills to kill for fun.
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    BokoToloko's Avatar
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I don't really feel much about that change, to be honest. It looked cool but that's it.

    I don't really mind much using it now, but I won't lose sleep over them removing it either.
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    Tai Natuia
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 85
    I need to still watch the whole live letter are they just removing it? Also is the gauge just going to be used for movement abilities or are they planning on getting rid of that too? I am already annoyed Trick attack is going to be a personal buff because that is going to nerf all classes damage and they will not balance around this, they never think of these things having a cascading effect on damage. They also wait super long to fix it. 'Gee golly willikers batman it seems some classes damage is way less than before' 'Gee have no clue how that happened' Looks at the removal of a bunch of skills and the fact that nothing has been buffed to reflect the changes elsewhere. Dancer not getting those extra procs or a way to increase proc odds still bug me since they changed it to use one or the other. I know drk isn't hurting for damage but the only use abyssal or carve and split annoyed me as well.

    I would be less annoyed if I didn't know why they are doing these changes. If people are having a problem aligning a buff that is their problem. You don't just take it away. What is it they say? get gud? I know 13 year olds that play this game better than most 30 year olds who are we nerfing these things for? who are actually having these problems? If people are licking windows and eating glue or just want to watch netflix they can still i lvl cheese for crystal tower to do those things, so I don't really see the problem. Well I guess prae is being removed so one less netflix dungeon.
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    Charming Tulip
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    I need to still watch the whole live letter are they just removing it? Also is the gauge just going to be used for movement abilities or are they planning on getting rid of that too? I am already annoyed Trick attack is going to be a personal buff because that is going to nerf all classes damage and they will not balance around this, they never think of these things having a cascading effect on damage. They also wait super long to fix it. 'Gee golly willikers batman it seems some classes damage is way less than before' 'Gee have no clue how that happened' Looks at the removal of a bunch of skills and the fact that nothing has been buffed to reflect the changes elsewhere. Dancer not getting those extra procs or a way to increase proc odds still bug me since they changed it to use one or the other. I know drk isn't hurting for damage but the only use abyssal or carve and split annoyed me as well.

    I would be less annoyed if I didn't know why they are doing these changes. If people are having a problem aligning a buff that is their problem. You don't just take it away. What is it they say? get gud? I know 13 year olds that play this game better than most 30 year olds who are we nerfing these things for? who are actually having these problems? If people are licking windows and eating glue or just want to watch netflix they can still i lvl cheese for crystal tower to do those things, so I don't really see the problem. Well I guess prae is being removed so one less netflix dungeon.
    the irony of someone not knowing SAM's kit trying to "git gud" over the removal of the most boring part of the kit is hilarious. in ST you use your Kenki on Shinten and Senei, in AoE on Kyuten and Guren
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    I need to still watch the whole live letter are they just removing it? Also is the gauge just going to be used for movement abilities or are they planning on getting rid of that too? I am already annoyed Trick attack is going to be a personal buff because that is going to nerf all classes damage and they will not balance around this, they never think of these things having a cascading effect on damage. They also wait super long to fix it. 'Gee golly willikers batman it seems some classes damage is way less than before' 'Gee have no clue how that happened' Looks at the removal of a bunch of skills and the fact that nothing has been buffed to reflect the changes elsewhere. Dancer not getting those extra procs or a way to increase proc odds still bug me since they changed it to use one or the other. I know drk isn't hurting for damage but the only use abyssal or carve and split annoyed me as well.

    I would be less annoyed if I didn't know why they are doing these changes. If people are having a problem aligning a buff that is their problem. You don't just take it away. What is it they say? get gud? I know 13 year olds that play this game better than most 30 year olds who are we nerfing these things for? who are actually having these problems? If people are licking windows and eating glue or just want to watch netflix they can still i lvl cheese for crystal tower to do those things, so I don't really see the problem. Well I guess prae is being removed so one less netflix dungeon.
    They're removing it and making several moves auto-crits to compensate. That's right, SAM will have auto-crits.
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