Why no dungeon trash exp?

[Tigerlilley]

This multiple times over

I guess also -
Instead of feeling like every step of the dungeon is progress towards something (getting exp and levelling) now you just spend the entire thing waiting for the end. I feel like its sucked the life out of dungeon running, I've never hated it as much as I do after this change.

I know its the same amount of exp. It just feels bad.

[Jeeqbit]

I guess also -
Instead of feeling like every step of the dungeon is progress towards something (getting exp and levelling) now you just spend the entire thing waiting for the end. I feel like its sucked the life out of dungeon running, I've never hated it as much as I do after this change.

I know its the same amount of exp. It just feels bad.

It's made no difference to my dungeon running. I do them for the roulette bonus or the loot, so the experience from specific enemies doesn't matter to me. I would definitely not say that it's "sucked the life out of dungeon running".

[MagicalChase]

It sucks bad that they always just cut content for people who dont like it rather than making it better, yaknow? Tons of people in this thread are lamenting the dungeons feeling worse cuz of the change, but a ton are also saying "well I never liked dunngeons so it doesnt matter that they're pointless!" Lots of people don't bother imagining how something could be better so they're fine with the removal or flattening of the game. Yeah it's the same amount of EXP but it feels bad to fight enemies now for no reward at all.

[Padudu]

It sucks bad that they always just cut content for people who dont like it rather than making it better, yaknow? Tons of people in this thread are lamenting the dungeons feeling worse cuz of the change, but a ton are also saying "well I never liked dunngeons so it doesnt matter that they're pointless!" Lots of people don't bother imagining how something could be better so they're fine with the removal or flattening of the game. Yeah it's the same amount of EXP but it feels bad to fight enemies now for no reward at all.

I like dungeons actually but the favorite part for me are the bosses. Dungeons are really good for atmosphere/music/ect and some I run solo (pre HW content anyways) to get some glams and such that I missed out on. Fightings mob after mobs has never been my thing, I didn't sign up to play Hyrule Warriors lol. It's ok on occassion but I would hate to do it every dang dungeon. Dungeons never felt pointless to me bcus I know I get the exp from the boss anyways.

The newer dungeons don't let you skip mobs anyway, they're so linear so you're not really missing out on fighting mobs so whatever. You still get loot/rewards from the chest so again never bothered me.

[MagicalChase]

I like dungeons actually but the favorite part for me are the bosses. Dungeons are really good for atmosphere/music/ect and some I run solo (pre HW content anyways) to get some glams and such that I missed out on. Fightings mob after mobs has never been my thing, I didn't sign up to play Hyrule Warriors lol. It's ok on occassion but I would hate to do it every dang dungeon. Dungeons never felt pointless to me bcus I know I get the exp from the boss anyways.

The newer dungeons don't let you skip mobs anyway, they're so linear so you're not really missing out on fighting mobs so whatever. You still get loot/rewards from the chest so again never bothered me.

but they already make content for people who like boss fights, its trials! Why turn all content in the game into trials? You dont sign up to fight a bunch of enemies in trials, but you literally do in dungeons. Don't you see that making it all linear and the mobs do no exp makes the actual dungeon crawling pointless?? why even bother designing a dungeon at that point jsut have a corridor with a cutscene and a boss at the end.

[LeonKeyh]

but they already make content for people who like boss fights, its trials! Why turn all content in the game into trials? You dont sign up to fight a bunch of enemies in trials, but you literally do in dungeons. Don't you see that making it all linear and the mobs do no exp makes the actual dungeon crawling pointless?? why even bother designing a dungeon at that point jsut have a corridor with a cutscene and a boss at the end.

That's exactly what dungeons have been in the last couple of expansions, a corridor with 2 cutscenes and 3 bosses. They have distilled the dungeons down into its simplest form for better or for worse.

That same argument could be made with trash "They already make content for people who like to fight trash for xp, it's FATES or open world!"

[MagicalChase]

That's exactly what dungeons have been in the last couple of expansions, a corridor with 2 cutscenes and 3 bosses. They have distilled the dungeons down into its simplest form for better or for worse.

That same argument could be made with trash "They already make content for people who like to fight trash for xp, it's FATES or open world!"

yeah the dungeons have been pretty bad for a while now. and yaknow you say that but the open world becomes less and less viable with every expansion. Plus fates are a massively differnt style of content to dungeons. Have you never played an mmo before shadowbringers? Not even other mmos but this one during a realm reborn or heavensward? Dungeon crawling is a thing much much more complicated than a fate or a corridor with a boss fight at the end.

[Padudu]

That same argument could be made with trash "They already make content for people who like to fight trash for xp, it's FATES or open world!"

You mean Eureka :P Funny cause I actually like Eureka too lol. Most of the time anyways

[Padudu]

but they already make content for people who like boss fights, its trials! Why turn all content in the game into trials? You dont sign up to fight a bunch of enemies in trials, but you literally do in dungeons. Don't you see that making it all linear and the mobs do no exp makes the actual dungeon crawling pointless?? why even bother designing a dungeon at that point jsut have a corridor with a cutscene and a boss at the end.

Idk in my mind trials and dungeons are separate? I still like running through dungeons and trials, A. raids too. I just never really saw the dungeons as a true "dungeon crawler" experience ig lol.

I think I'm wording it a bit too vaguely or confusingly - I think there's a line to too little mobs vs. too much - as in I don't really want to fight mob levels of Dynasty Warriors but I'm ok with going through a couple of mobs here and there to make it through. Again I don't really see it pointless as I'm still getting exp and stuff for it, I think that's just where our personal differences are lol + I never minded about games being linear.

[MagicalChase]

Idk in my mind trials and dungeons are separate? I still like running through dungeons and trials, A. raids too. I just never really saw the dungeons as a true "dungeon crawler" experience ig lol.

I think I'm wording it a bit too vaguely or confusingly - I think there's a line to too little mobs vs. too much - as in I don't really want to fight mob levels of Dynasty Warriors but I'm ok with going through a couple of mobs here and there to make it through. Again I don't really see it pointless as I'm still getting exp and stuff for it, I think that's just where our personal differences are lol + I never minded about games being linear.

what do you think of brayflox longstop? id like more dungeons like that with rewards for playing differently or taking risks. brayflox is my favorite ARR dungeon, tho most ARR dungeons are my favorites