What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Rulakir]

Flames on the side of my head.

OMG, is that a Clue reference?! I adore that film!

[KizuyaKatogami]

Man, that speech by Cookingway was probably the single point in all story content across all of FFXIV that honestly made me angriest.

For me it was Graha in 5.3 killing elidibus with his stupid speech of “your soul is mine!” Sit down catboy, you’re lucky your a fan favorite or i would’ve turned you into pop rocks myself >_>

[Brinne]

OMG, is that a Clue reference?! I adore that film!

[Theodric]

For me it was Graha in 5.3 killing elidibus with his stupid speech of “your soul is mine!” Sit down catboy, you’re lucky your a fan favorite or i would’ve turned you into pop rocks myself >_>

It's still weird to me that a throwaway NPC from ARR was elevated into such a prominent position. It really makes me think where the main story could have gone had it not sought to tie everything back to the Crystal Tower raids...

I'd have much preferred some of Matsuno's contributions to the story to tie in to the finale.

[Berret_Snow]

I liked a lot of it, but there were some points that were questionable like others have brought up.
"Don't try to better your lives, maintain the status quo!"

[EgilTheStressedMage]

I truly hope you guys are speaking in terms of the game and not real life. Because this is getting legitimately worrying, less so for the game but not by much.

[KageTokage]

I truly hope you guys are speaking in terms of the game and not real life. Because this is getting legitimately worrying, less so for the game but not by much.

I think people are just starting to feel increasingly frustrated with every new post-Endwalker interview that releases showing how horribly conveyed a lot of the story's themes/messages were.

They've never had to do this much damage control in terms of trying to explain story points and their intent with certain writing choices that they felt players had "misinterpreted".

The bit about us being expected to find the Ancient culture "scary" was the most confusing by far as I've seen literally no one who walked away with that perspective regardless of whether or not they they took issue with Venat's actions.

I've largely loved XIV's story, but I really don't want it to continue going in a direction where the impressions we're getting from it are completely at odds with what the writers intended, especially when none of the prior expansions had such an issue.

[Caurcas]

I think people are just starting to feel increasingly frustrated with every new post-Endwalker interview that releases showing how horribly conveyed a lot of the story's themes/messages were.

They've never had to do this much damage control in terms of trying to explain story points and their intent with certain writing choices that they felt players had "misinterpreted".

The bit about us being expected to find the Ancient culture "scary" was the most confusing by far as I've seen literally no one who walked away with that perspective regardless of whether or not they they took issue with Venat's actions.

I've largely loved XIV's story, but I really don't want it to continue going in a direction where the impressions we're getting from it are completely at odds with what the writers intended, especially when none of the prior expansions had such an issue.

While not scary, I found the ancient culture too decadent and self aggrandizing.

[PawPaw]

I truly hope you guys are speaking in terms of the game and not real life. Because this is getting legitimately worrying, less so for the game but not by much.

Well, considering we're on a game forum dedicated to discussion of the game I think it's safe to say we're talking about the game. No one needs to worry over me, thanks.

[CrownySuccubus]

While not scary, I found the ancient culture too decadent and self aggrandizing.

I didn't. I don't remember who said it in this thread, but I agree with their sentiment that Elpis left me convinced that Emet-Selch was right and their society was overall better than what we've got on The Source. Even the things we were supposed to find questionable (how callously they disregard the lives of non-Ancients and how willing they are to die once their purpose is fulfilled) didn't strike me as all that terrible by comparison. The former just needed one good progressive movement and the latter was mostly a personal choice. Hell, for all we know, someone like Venat could have inspired other people to find new purposes.

I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but I sure didn't leave The World Unsundered thinking their civilization was better as a memory and that modern people dodged a bullet. Just the opposite, in fact.