Future direction of FFXIV

[Ransu]

Meanwhile at swtor waiting two years for a basic patch labeled as an "expansion." Ya'll really have no idea how good we have it with FFXIV. Deep dungeons was replaced with a different type of content so no loss there. Hildabrand wasn't cut, they just felt it wouldn't fit given the narrative of ShB and its coming back with the upcoming 6.x content. And yes we've gone from 18 total dungeons in HW to 15 in SB and 13 in ShB, but they have added more of other types of content. Just because there's less of the content YOU focus on doesn't mean there's been less content overall. It just means they shifted their focus to create more of other types of content.

If swtor 7.0 looked like just the amount of content this games 6.1 is getting I'd be ecstatic.

[KizuyaKatogami]

What was the 10th type of content? Also that is kind of sad that there was only 1 new content type, 20 additional quests, and a whole 6 more bosses after 3 expansions.
I assume the new content type was the 40man? And the 6 bosses, were the bosses in the 40man that could be done with 5 players.
There was 1 additional cutscene and we got 2 hours of additional cutscene length. I guess I understand why EW felt like a movie now 20 more quests and 2 more hours of cutscenes.
Seeing how the UI is still pretty terrible that tasks for the UI team should be doubled. Maybe they should put tasks completed cause it doesn't feel like they have complete 219 changes to the UI.
Don't care about how many races need to equip with gear. Dont care about the items.
I do like more scenes are voiced.

What’s interesting is, let’s look at stormblood for a moment. Had the normal amount of dungeons like HW. Had deep dungeon, new housing district, 4 relic zones, two ultimates, primal weapons for the new jobs, full voice acting for the 4 fiends fights, voice acting in the alli raids. The best part? None of this really came at the cost of any other content. Now look at ShB where they cut dungeons, cut deep dungeon, no primal weapons for the new jobs, no voice acting in the alli raid and weapons series, 2 relic zones, etc etc. I find it pretty funny that they chose what looked best on them, i’m very curious on how it would look had they compared SB to ShB.

The fact we still cant at the very least get dyable dungeon gear 3 expansions later is pretty telling, but not only that, now theyre literally cutting gear from dungeons. Whats next at this point?

[SeverianLyonesse]

What’s interesting is, let’s look at stormblood for a moment. Had the normal amount of dungeons like HW. Had deep dungeon, new housing district, 4 relic zones, two ultimates, primal weapons for the new jobs, full voice acting for the 4 fiends fights, voice acting in the alli raids. The best part? None of this really came at the cost of any other content. Now look at ShB where they cut dungeons, cut deep dungeon, no primal weapons for the new jobs, no voice acting in the alli raid and weapons series, 2 relic zones, etc etc. I find it pretty funny that they chose what looked best on them, i’m very curious on how it would look had they compared SB to ShB.

The fact we still cant at the very least get dyable dungeon gear 3 expansions later is pretty telling, but not only that, now theyre literally cutting gear from dungeons. Whats next at this point?

It's really difficult to compare the 5.x patches and 6.0 to prior expansions because of the pandemic.

Some of the EW dungeon gear is dyable, as it was in ShB.

And on top of things we've been dealing with stuff like removal of TP in ShB, the stat squish in EW, the graphics update, the DC visiting, and of course we can't forget the server crashes and login queues.

I just find people whinging and trying to bookkeep whether the content is "deficient" or not to be a lot of aimless nitpicking. Pick a couple things you want the devs to work on (that they actually *can* work on) and promote those ideas. Don't expect the content to be comparable from expansion to expansion--it never has been in ANY MMO.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It's really difficult to compare the 5.x patches and 6.0 to prior expansions because of the pandemic.

Some of the EW dungeon gear is dyable, as it was in ShB.

And on top of things we've been dealing with stuff like removal of TP in ShB, the stat squish in EW, the graphics update, the DC visiting, and of course we can't forget the server crashes and login queues.

I just find people whinging and trying to bookkeep whether the content is "deficient" or not to be a lot of aimless nitpicking. Pick a couple things you want the devs to work on (that they actually *can* work on) and promote those ideas. Don't expect the content to be comparable from expansion to expansion--it never has been in ANY MMO.

Things were missing in ShB long before the pandemic even started though. The dungeon cut, deep dungeon, hildibrand, primal weapons, and voice acting were all confirmed cut before the pandemic came, and even when it did, the devs themselves stated they were working at 95% efficiency and that’s BEFORE they even took the what was it, 3-5 months to accommodate the loss of time due to the pandemic? I think when a game makes the most money and has attracted the most players it ever has, we should at the very least see the same amount of content. The fact we can’t even get things that we got 3 expansions ago now is beyond absurd. Some of the EW dungeon gear is dyable sure, but there are reused sets that they still couldn’t even make dyable, or even role swap them. We are in 2022 lmao. The game has made record breaking profits. SB gave us server travel and again, you didn’t see a cut in content. People have been picking things for the devs to work on for over SIX YEARS and they’ve been ignored by the current dev team. This is why i say it’s no wonder people want a change. I don’t see it as aimless nitpicking when we all pay to play the game. We’re all funding the game i expect to see peoples money going to the right place.

[Clover_Blake]

The team has done a fantastic job simplifying most jobs, butchering healers over each expansion, ignoring said healers for the past 6 years, and taking 6-8 years to somewhat fix their horrible housing system. But hey, at least the casuals are happy.

I happen to main White Mage and I have a blast playing it. Spoeak for yourself!
(Late reply is late, sorry ;;; )

[aveyond-dreams]

I happen to main White Mage and I have a blast playing it. Spoeak for yourself!

White Mage prior to this expansion was my go to healer, and while I do not heal in high end content it was fun playing it in the NieR raids and pushing my trusts to do mega pulls as WHM through the use of tools like Thin Air. The nerf to that ability has significantly lowered my desire to play the job, especially when Sage feels more active and like more of a spectacle through its abilities.

At present Sage has now become my go to healer, along with Astrologian.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I happen to main White Mage and I have a blast playing it. Spoeak for yourself!
(Late reply is late, sorry ;;; )

Doesnt change the mp problems whm has, or the misery problems, etc. Im happy some people enjoy spamming 1 button for 90% of a fight though.

[GeminiReed]

I think when a game makes the most money and has attracted the most players it ever has, we should at the very least see the same amount of content. ... The game has made record breaking profits.

Sorry for cherry-picking but while those statements are true those events are much more recent than the event that settled the budget for EW and likely a good chunk of 7.0 work. Now that Yoshi-P is on the board XIV stands a much better chance of retaining a better portion of the revenue it generated.

Even if the funding problem has been solved that doesn't directly translate into content. XIV has long struggled with hiring enough talent to create that content. I have no idea how Square treats their developers but the wider gamesdev industry is looking much more like a career stain than a dream job. On top of that it's a workers' market with employers going to great lengths to attract talent.

[Deceptus]

Meanwhile at swtor waiting two years for a basic patch labeled as an "expansion." Ya'll really have no idea how good we have it with FFXIV. Deep dungeons was replaced with a different type of content so no loss there. Hildabrand wasn't cut, they just felt it wouldn't fit given the narrative of ShB and its coming back with the upcoming 6.x content. And yes we've gone from 18 total dungeons in HW to 15 in SB and 13 in ShB, but they have added more of other types of content. Just because there's less of the content YOU focus on doesn't mean there's been less content overall. It just means they shifted their focus to create more of other types of content.

If swtor 7.0 looked like just the amount of content this games 6.1 is getting I'd be ecstatic.

That's what happens when you have a subscription based game. It's much easier to project future revenue and expenses when you have a good idea of what's coming in.

[GeminiReed]

That's what happens when you have a subscription based game. It's much easier to project future revenue and expenses when you have a good idea of what's coming in.

That's the best part! While SW:TOR claims to be "free to play" it really isn't worth bothering unless you cough up for a sub. XIV's free trial makes a mockery of what TOR's great unwashed need to put up with.