Support for FCFS housing in 6.1

[Pandie_Goodies]

You said it yourself, there is going to be login issues during patch release so having FCFS is going to cause undue stress to anyone who's trying to join in the rush to login and hoping not to get disconnected or stuck behind a long queue.

Also, as others have mentioned, lottery is simply a more equitable system of giving everyone at a fair chance at getting a shot at a house, especially given that they are a commodity in short supply.

Having FCFS means a minority of the playerbase gets to double dip which is just not a good look at all.

Equitable system? Maybe but I still think it doesn't solve it. FCFS or Lottery, given how VASTLY popular this game became? It's still going to have long queue issues and trouble logging in, I just don't see the point in complaining when it's not going to do anything and still be a problem if not even worse now.

As much as i don't mind either FCFS or Lottery, I'd rather prefer instance housing, and I also think people that want the first come first serve treatment should have their fair chance. Let them have their couple wards.

[Mango2020]

I can't wait for Lotto I need an upgrade to a medium

[Eraden]

I am just enjoy my Diet Coke and pop corn while seeing these people who praise lottery turn around after they found out they didn’t get it after dust settled

I have already said on multiple occasions that my chances with the Lottery are far less than what I would have with FCFS. I still support the Lottery as it is fair to all. Your statement adds NOTHING to this conversation. It reads like a pretty bad case of sour grapes.

[Eraden]

Equitable system? Maybe but I still think it doesn't solve it. FCFS or Lottery, given how VASTLY popular this game became? It's still going to have long queue issues and trouble logging in, I just don't see the point in complaining when it's not going to do anything and still be a problem if not even worse now.

As much as i don't mind either FCFS or Lottery, I'd rather prefer instance housing, and I also think people that want the first come first serve treatment should have their fair chance. Let them have their couple wards.

Although I disagree with your desire to commit even just a few wards to FCFS, I am in complete agreement with you on the desire for instanced housing. If the developers can not add more wards, perhaps a form of instanced housing would help address the issue of a shortage of housing.

[Pandie_Goodies]

Although I disagree with your desire to commit even just a few wards to FCFS, I am in complete agreement with you on the desire for instanced housing. If the developers can not add more wards, perhaps a form of instanced housing would help address the issue of a shortage of housing.

I just dislike both options, fcfs or lottery, The housing system as it stands is very flawed, as fun as it was to have neighbors and such it's kinda smelly when those same neighbors don't really interact with you or do much with you most of the time, people would rather form housing among friends and or family and just overall having a good time, hence why I think instance housing is better.

I don't care for either FCFS or lottery and even if they DID allow some FCFS wards I still feel without a doubt in my mind it wouldn't change much, even with the lottery system people are going to crum up the login system, especially with how popular this game is now. It's gonna reach to a point that no matter how many wards they are gonna put in it's not gonna satisfy the growing popularity this game is creating, hence why I still think getting rid of FCFS is not gonna matter and adding a few wards ain't gonna hurt, I'm pretty sure this is going to be their largest amount of wards they are gonna add in since stormblood there's still gonna be aLOT of houses to have a chance on getting, and with island sanctuary on the way and being hopeful that MAY be the answer to instance housing with some fun things involving it, I understand your disagreement but it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

[Jojoya]

I get seeing people not liking fcfs being a thing but there's something I really need to just put out there for clarification sake.

The moment a new patch comes out, like it or not it will get swamped cause it's a patch full of new content and such and alot of people like to be there right when it's out, even if a new ward becomes available, as in experience to shadowbringers updates and seeing them add some wards. So what confuses me is that people are very defiant on not wanting fcfs even though there's going to be a lottery system added in to most wards.

Why bother demanding no fcfs when you can just, get on later anyways to attempt the lottery system? If you make the excuse that it's going to effect login, you do know login will be effected REGARDLESS of housing or not when a new patch drops, especially as major as 6.1 is going to be? Just wanna throw that out, if people are going to make this excuse I just wanna quash it and make a good point to stop people from making said excuses.

Players do it because they are desperate to get a house and don't want to miss out on any opportunities available.

If there's only lottery, then there's no pressure to log in right away because an entry made at the end of the lottery period is just as valid as an entry made at the start. Everyone gets the same single chance per lottery period.

If there's FCFS, then not being logged in at the absolute soonest moment looking for open plots in FCFS wards is multiple opportunities lost. What if they would have been lucky logging on right away for FCFS while their lottery entry fails to win? Potentially unhealthy behavior ends up encouraged because of that fear they are going to miss out on what would have been their winning chance.

Things would change if players were limited on how often they could camp under FCFS just as they're limited on how often they can enter in the lottery. They would change even more if there was no FCFS at all and everyone was limited to one chance per lottery period.

I'm pretty sure this is going to be their largest amount of wards they are gonna add in since stormblood there's still gonna be aLOT of houses to have a chance on getting, and with island sanctuary on the way and being hopeful that MAY be the answer to instance housing with some fun things involving it, I understand your disagreement but it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

An additional 1440 houses per world when there are probably 10,000+ players on most worlds trying to get one is not going to be nearly as impactful as the 4.2 ward addition was (that was a 50% increase to available houses for an active player base that was roughly a third the size it is now).

And please honor YoshiP's request for players to lower their expectations when it comes to Island Sanctuary. Stop spreading the false hope it's a housing solution. If it was anything close to what players expect from housing, he would have no reason to tell us to lower our expectations.

[Divinemights]

I have already said on multiple occasions that my chances with the Lottery are far less than what I would have with FCFS. I still support the Lottery as it is fair to all. Your statement adds NOTHING to this conversation. It reads like a pretty bad case of sour grapes.

You can support all you want
It doesn’t change the fact that people who praised lottery now will do 180 turnaround after they found out the result
Sour grape?
I am more likely amused than your weak counter as I belongs group of people will go out this release to upgrade plot to bigger size.
We are going to be new players’ competition and we will lose nothing at the end.
There is no fair system and stop living in your delusion.
This lottery system only favors the existing house owners because we got nothing to lose

[Eraden]

You can support all you want
It doesn’t change the fact that people who praised lottery now will do 180 turnaround after they found out the result
Sour grape?
I am more likely amused than your weak counter as I belongs group of people will go out this release to upgrade plot to bigger size.
We are going to be new players’ competition and we will lose nothing at the end.
There is no fair system and stop living in your delusion.
This lottery system only favors the existing house owners because we got nothing to lose

The only person who is delusional here is apparently you. Just like with your previous post, you add nothing of value to this discussion. You have no understanding of the inherent fairness of a Lottery system and you continue to cling to this notion that people who favor the Lottery system do not understand that their chances of getting a plot will not be good. At this point, I have to conclude that you are simply a troll.

[Divinemights]

The only person who is delusional here is apparently you. Just like with your previous post, you add nothing of value to this discussion. You have no understanding of the inherent fairness of a Lottery system and you continue to cling to this notion that people who favor the Lottery system do not understand that their chances of getting a plot will not be good. At this point, I have to conclude that you are simply a troll.

Is that all you are going to say?
Weak, too weak.
You can conclude all you want because your opinion nevertheless is narrowed to your fanatic support of lottery and on a total denial of FCFS and favorless.
You are the one go all in on attacking FCFS idea even people is asking for "one ward" only, not someone else, but you claim that it is the "ONLY" fair solution.
You get one chance in next release anyway and how it matters if there are 24 wars or 23 wards?
Short-sighted, tunnel vision, and on full denial of FCFS that were in place.

Stop praise lottery system, this is just a copy of Beijing China's car plate license lottery in which always problematic
It is fine that you want this lottery system, but you cant stop people who dedicate enough to devote themselves into idea of FCFS

[Pandie_Goodies]

And please honor YoshiP's request for players to lower their expectations when it comes to Island Sanctuary. Stop spreading the false hope it's a housing solution. If it was anything close to what players expect from housing, he would have no reason to tell us to lower our expectations.

I don't know what got you to think I'm spreading any false information but I'm giving you a peculiar annoyed look for it, especially since you didn't bother quoting the later posts I made.

No one knows what island sanctuary is going to be, I'm literally assuming it's just the WoL's reward for literally being a hero and that's it and they get to have an island and do whatever they want, hence why I like to ASSUME that it's a form of instance housing. I'm not SAYING it is. I'm ASSUMING it is. If people are immediately gonna believe a forum post and take it to heart then that person is kinda not smart.