Thread: Support for FCFS housing in 6.1

Originally Posted by Eraden

The only person who is delusional here is apparently you. Just like with your previous post, you add nothing of value to this discussion. You have no understanding of the inherent fairness of a Lottery system and you continue to cling to this notion that people who favor the Lottery system do not understand that their chances of getting a plot will not be good. At this point, I have to conclude that you are simply a troll.

Is that all you are going to say?
Weak, too weak.
You can conclude all you want because your opinion nevertheless is narrowed to your fanatic support of lottery and on a total denial of FCFS and favorless.
You are the one go all in on attacking FCFS idea even people is asking for "one ward" only, not someone else, but you claim that it is the "ONLY" fair solution.
You get one chance in next release anyway and how it matters if there are 24 wars or 23 wards?
Short-sighted, tunnel vision, and on full denial of FCFS that were in place.

Stop praise lottery system, this is just a copy of Beijing China's car plate license lottery in which always problematic
It is fine that you want this lottery system, but you cant stop people who dedicate enough to devote themselves into idea of FCFS

Originally Posted by Eraden

The only person who is delusional here is apparently you. Just like with your previous post, you add nothing of value to this discussion. You have no understanding of the inherent fairness of a Lottery system and you continue to cling to this notion that people who favor the Lottery system do not understand that their chances of getting a plot will not be good. At this point, I have to conclude that you are simply a troll.

You're rather naive if you don't see at least a little truth in what Divinemights said.

There will be a lot of happiness during the first lottery period with over 1400 houses up for grabs. Then disappointment but still some hope during the second lottery period when the houses vacated by those able to relocate during the first lottery period go up for sale. Then unhappiness during the third lottery period when almost nothing is left and finally anger in the fourth lottery period when there's nothing left (until demolition resumes and 45 days passes so houses start demoing again). Many players who thought the lottery and other changes would provide them with a house still won't have one and realize that the lottery really hasn't solved anything at all.

All it's done is changed the nature of the RNG involved, and in a very real way made that RNG even worse due to ease of access. Those who weren't trying at all to get a house will find it better than without the lottery. Those who had been trying under FCFS will see that the odds of getting a house have dropped significantly because their agency in choosing how much effort they can put into obtaining a house has been removed from them.

Is the system fairer with the lottery? Yes.

Are people still going to complain? You better believe it. It won't be everyone but the complaints will be there.

I can't wait for Lotto I need an upgrade to a medium

Chill guys.

Let's just wait for the live letter on 1 April for more concrete news.

No matter how much we bicker among ourselves, that will not change anything now that SE decision is pretty much set.

Let's just give the new lottery system a fair shot before shooting it down prematurely. After all, it can't be any worse than the current system of placard camping, can it?

One more vote for at least SOME FCFS housing wards, PLEASE! That way it's fair to have at least a chance for people who prefer FCFS.

Even if lottery is lower odds in the end, at least I get to spend my time playing the game while having a chance at the house instead of 'playing' placard clicker for hours on end with no assurance of ever winning against the dozens of housing bots out there, not to mention risking injuries due to repetitive stress motions.

So no thanks, FCFS should just be relegated to the consigns of history and no one should ever speak of it again.

Originally Posted by DeNada

Even if lottery is lower odds in the end, at least I get to spend my time playing the game while having a chance at the house instead of 'playing' placard clicker for hours on end with no assurance of ever winning against the dozens of housing bots out there, not to mention risking injuries due to repetitive stress motions.

So no thanks, FCFS should just be relegated to the consigns of history and no one should ever speak of it again.

Dust is settled, you got what you want that.
It is amused to see Balmung people saying this since their odd is worst among all servers

Originally Posted by DeNada

Even if lottery is lower odds in the end, at least I get to spend my time playing the game while having a chance at the house instead of 'playing' placard clicker for hours on end with no assurance of ever winning against the dozens of housing bots out there, not to mention risking injuries due to repetitive stress motions.

So no thanks, FCFS should just be relegated to the consigns of history and no one should ever speak of it again.

If you're worried about repetitive motion injuries, why are you playing a MMO? Pressing buttons for a placard is no more stressful than pressing buttons for combat or pressing buttons to chat. We're always pressing buttons while we're playing. Placard camping is just a more boring choice of activity. If you're thinking about the length of time you spend doing it, nothing is stopping you from taking a break.

Some players will defintiely continue to speak about FCFS because they will remember the time they could just walk up to a placard to buy a house, no hassle other than being in the right place at the right time.

Patch 4.2 had been a great time for house buyers (unless they were playing on Balmung). It took a few months for all those new plots to get purchased (player base was about a third of the size it is now but we got the same number of new plots that Empyreum will be adding). Some worlds still had available plots all the way into the start of 2019. No placard camping in most cases. No waiting on a lottery period to end and results to be posted on the placard to see if your entry is going to be picked over 500+ other entries. Why would players not continue to talk about those days?

Speaking of results, willing to bet that's going to end up another common complaint. "Why do I have to go back to the plot to find out if I won? Can't you just send me an in-game mail? It's going to be so disheartening to make the trip all the way to the plot just to see another player's name listed and know I'll have to wait until the next lottery period starts before I can try again".

Another possible complaint: "I can't remember what plot I entered for! How do I find out so I can see if I won?" Hopefully SE has either thought to add lottery entries with plot numbers to Estate Timers or will be able to do so because I can definitely see some players forgetting the ward and plot number.