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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Given that they seem to keep overcompensating for Trick Attack in NIN's balance tuning, I think would be nice if we got some supportive ninjutsu that offers additional party benefits like in-combat movement speed buffs, regens, and other such things to make it like the red mage/dancer of melee jobs in terms of how much utility it offers.
    That would be nice. It would give Ninja another piece of identity unique to it as a close range melee class, besides its use of ninjutsu.

    Though at the same time, I'd prefer a saboteur Ninja over a party support Ninja, but hell, at least that's be something more than what we currently have with it.

    That, and our poison positionals brought back as a stun and poison overtime technique that can be stacked, increasing the chance of paralysis interruption and damage dealt by poison, in addition to the timer on how long they last upon the enemy being reset every time you use them.
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    Last edited by Soge01; 03-15-2022 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    * SCH: Eos/Selene.
    What? when did this happen?
    I could've sworn I saw a fairy floating on the SCH when I was tanking yesterday
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    What? when did this happen?
    I could've sworn I saw a fairy floating on the SCH when I was tanking yesterday
    While Eos sort of functions the same as it always has, Selene was completely stripped of its identity and now only functions as pretty much alternative glamour to Eos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    While Eos sort of functions the same as it always has, Selene was completely stripped of its identity and now only functions as pretty much alternative glamour to Eos.
    so the only functional fairy is Eos now basically.
    Selene's fate gives me a "put the lotion on the skin" vibes xD
    And SMN is getting their dots removed in 6.0 aren't they.
    But they were the DoT class @.@
    At least 5 years ago.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    so the only functional fairy is Eos now basically.
    Selene's fate gives me a "put the lotion on the skin" vibes xD
    And SMN is getting their dots removed in 6.0 aren't they.
    But they were the DoT class @.@
    At least 5 years ago.
    Yup. Lol, I haven't seen that movie, but it hurts seeing Selene being treated like a glamour. x'D

    To be fair to new SMN, aesthetically, it functions a hell of alot better than DoT Summoner. Though I hope with the removal of the DoTs, the devs are thinking of giving us a new class that focuses on DoT upkeep, as despite DoT SMN's aesthetic problems with being a traditional Summoner, it was still fun to play and kept us pretty busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Yup. Lol, I haven't seen that movie, but it hurts seeing Selene being treated like a glamour. x'D

    To be fair to new SMN, aesthetically, it functions a hell of alot better than DoT Summoner. Though I hope with the removal of the DoTs, the devs are thinking of giving us a new class that focuses on DoT upkeep, as despite DoT SMN's aesthetic problems with being a traditional Summoner, it was still fun to play and kept us pretty busy.
    you haven't seen silence of the lambs!?
    NIN coulda been the DoT class with their poisons and all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I'd actually like to see an ice themed Ninjutsu as part of our rotation tho.
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    Hyosho Ranyu
    Hyosho Ranryu not good enough? It is literally Ice Shurikens and the description calls it ice elemental and it is used as part of your rotation.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Hyosho Ranryu not good enough? It is literally Ice Shurikens and the description calls it ice elemental and it is used as part of your rotation.
    I just assumed it was unaspected, never really read it carefully.
    It doesn't look like an ice skill to me.

    Imo if it's actually meant to be ice they could make it look more like ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    We don't talk about Hyoton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Kassatsu it for Hyosho Ranryu, better ice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I've used Hyoton before to save the day in dungeons or simply stay alive after everyone else has died until they get there but yeah it's obviously not part of your rotation.
    Guys, it was a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I'd actually like to see an ice themed Ninjutsu as part of our rotation tho.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I just assumed it was unaspected, never really read it carefully.
    It doesn't look like an ice skill to me.

    Imo if it's actually meant to be ice they could make it look more like ice.
    As has been pointed out, it Hyosho Ranryu is an ice element attack—it's ice colored, has some snow flurries, has an ice sound, and the ability reads "Deals ice damage..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post

    As has been pointed out, it Hyosho Ranryu is an ice element attack—it's ice colored, has some snow flurries, has an ice sound, and the ability reads "Deals ice damage..."
    It never read as ice visually to me, it sounds like glass to me and is completely white.
    Imo if it's actually meant to be ice they could do a better job at communicating that beyond just the description.
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