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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    The only 'poison' effects for Ninja back in the day was a buff to damage. Two buttons that did nothing but that. They removed them and buffed up the actual damage, so these two were no longer necessary.

    The only poison DoTs I remember are from Bards and the Arcanist Twins.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    The Ninja's poisons of old were more there decide whether you wanted to have a stun or an interrupt.

    The closest we currently get to anything poison is Scholar's DoT.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    I think it was a stun or heal.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I think it was a stun or heal.
    50% of a 140 Potency attack's damage is not much of a heal...
    The main one really was Jugulate, which was a 1 second silence (such effects got turned into interrupts). Which with Enhanced Wasp Venom turned into a 2 second stun.

    This was before Role Actions, so Ninja didn't have access to Leg Sweep so it was the only stun they could get access to.
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    I don't get why ninja doesn't have any poison attacks like a poison mist or spray. It would be nice to have some sort of attacks like that
    I'd prefer to keep the focus on weaponskills and ninjutsu; I don't know that I see the value in diluting those core gish themes with poison just because.
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    Cesan Duff
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    so NINs don't have a DoT based poison attack?
    I mean it's basically just flavor text at that point.
    SE be sleeping
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    I love DoTs, although I can understand that situations where you can make full use of them are limited, and they compete for space in an ever-growing kit of skills that bloats with each new expansion. I agree that it feels bad not to have any poisons on a rogue/ninja character, because I'm so used to that in other MMOs or fantasy games. Doton would have made more sense as an AoE poison cloud, rather than some vague "I made the ground angry" magic. Trick Attack is also a rather generic-sounding move that could have easily been themed as injecting a wound-festering toxin that causes the target to take more damage from incoming attacks. Heck, make it a blow dart or something while we're at it, that'd be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Doton would have made more sense as an AoE poison cloud, rather than some vague "I made the ground angry" magic.
    Earth—the "vague" magic is earth element ninjutsu. NIN also have wind, fire, lightning, and water ninjutsu.

    Wind, fire, lightning, water, earth, poison—one of these is not like the others.
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    Mike Aettir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    Earth—the "vague" magic is earth element ninjutsu. NIN also have wind, fire, lightning, and water ninjutsu.

    Wind, fire, lightning, water, earth, poison—one of these is not like the others.
    Don't forget Ice, one Ninjutsu for every elemental affinity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Don't forget Ice
    We don't talk about Hyoton.
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