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    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Maduin
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    NIN poison attacks in the future?

    I don't get why ninja doesn't have any poison attacks like a poison mist or spray. It would be nice to have some sort of attacks like that
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    We used to have poison as a damage buff on weapons in ARR.
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    We used to have poison as a damage buff on weapons in ARR.
    Was there in HW too, but the system was always underwhelming. It wasn't even poison so much as a simple damage stance you always kept on.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Rogues used to have a stance called Kiss of the Wasp.

    Apply wasp venom to your weapon, increasing physical damage dealt by 5%. Shares a recast timer with Kiss of the Viper and cannot be used simultaneously with any other weapon poisons. Effect ends upon reuse.
    Enhanced Wasp Venom increases the damage from 5% to 20%, as well as causing Jugulate to Stun for 2 seconds instead of the 1 second silence.
    Rogues used to have another stance called Kiss of the Viper.

    Apply snake venom to your weapon, increasing physical damage dealt by 10%. Shares a recast timer with Kiss of the Wasp, and cannot be used simultaneously with any other weapon poisons. Effect ends upon reuse.
    Enhanced Viper Venom increases the damage from 10% to 20%, as well as causing Mug to steal 50% of damage as health instead of the increased item rewards.
    Kiss of the Viper is obviously better, so all it was doing was allowing new players to do it wrong or worse, not use a stance at all. It was just a chore to turn on the stance every time you switch to Ninja or sync into roulettes, so it was eventually removed.

    The effects on stuns and silences did not remain important because they quickly stopped letting stuns and silences affect bosses and removed most trash from raids except for transition phases and all tanks can interrupt these.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Was there in HW too, but the system was always underwhelming. It wasn't even poison so much as a simple damage stance you always kept on.
    Yeah NIN at this point are a bit more like '' battle mages '' moreso than sneaky Assassins.
    I do like Ninjutsus but I kinda wish they incorporated stealth a bit more.

    I rly loved Subtlety and Assassination Rogues in WoW.
    I especially liked the poison theme of Assassination Rogues.
    Crafting poison was fun too imo.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Was there in HW too, but the system was always underwhelming. It wasn't even poison so much as a simple damage stance you always kept on.
    There were two stances you'd change depending on uh... nin stuff. I won't pretend to know much about the old rotations back then.
    But it sounded more interesting than no stances at all.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Because NIN is basically just Naruto.
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    Zoe Quintel
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    True. I wish we had a real rogue JOB, and not only a class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynical_baby View Post
    True. I wish we had a real rogue JOB, and not only a class.
    I like the Rogue animations too, I mean I don't have a problem with the NIN animations I don't '' cringe '' from the Naruto run or whatever people complain about it.
    But I really like them.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Because NIN is basically just Naruto.
    Not having watched Naruto, but having played FF4 (DS remake at least), FFXIV ninja seems in line with Edge's ninjutsu in that game: a few evasive abilities but mostly elemental magic.
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