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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Rogues used to have a stance called Kiss of the Wasp.





    Rogues used to have another stance called Kiss of the Viper.





    Kiss of the Viper is obviously better, so all it was doing was allowing new players to do it wrong or worse, not use a stance at all. It was just a chore to turn on the stance every time you switch to Ninja or sync into roulettes, so it was eventually removed.

    The effects on stuns and silences did not remain important because they quickly stopped letting stuns and silences affect bosses and removed most trash from raids except for transition phases and all tanks can interrupt these.
    I don't mind that they remove stances, but it does make me sad that jobs have lost so much flavor and identity. Off the top of my head, we've lost:

    * AST: Nocturnal/Diurnal Sect.
    * SCH: Eos/Selene.
    * MCH: Bishop/Rook Turret.

    I just wish more jobs at least attempted stuff like PLD where they reappropriated Sword Oath and Shield Oath for other mechs.

    As it stands, NIN really should have more assassin flavor. Without it the mudra system makes it feel too much like a mage, which I think really does not play into a NIN job fantasy very well.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    * SCH: Eos/Selene.
    What? when did this happen?
    I could've sworn I saw a fairy floating on the SCH when I was tanking yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    What? when did this happen?
    I could've sworn I saw a fairy floating on the SCH when I was tanking yesterday
    While Eos sort of functions the same as it always has, Selene was completely stripped of its identity and now only functions as pretty much alternative glamour to Eos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    While Eos sort of functions the same as it always has, Selene was completely stripped of its identity and now only functions as pretty much alternative glamour to Eos.
    so the only functional fairy is Eos now basically.
    Selene's fate gives me a "put the lotion on the skin" vibes xD
    And SMN is getting their dots removed in 6.0 aren't they.
    But they were the DoT class @.@
    At least 5 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    so the only functional fairy is Eos now basically.
    Selene's fate gives me a "put the lotion on the skin" vibes xD
    And SMN is getting their dots removed in 6.0 aren't they.
    But they were the DoT class @.@
    At least 5 years ago.
    Yup. Lol, I haven't seen that movie, but it hurts seeing Selene being treated like a glamour. x'D

    To be fair to new SMN, aesthetically, it functions a hell of alot better than DoT Summoner. Though I hope with the removal of the DoTs, the devs are thinking of giving us a new class that focuses on DoT upkeep, as despite DoT SMN's aesthetic problems with being a traditional Summoner, it was still fun to play and kept us pretty busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Yup. Lol, I haven't seen that movie, but it hurts seeing Selene being treated like a glamour. x'D

    To be fair to new SMN, aesthetically, it functions a hell of alot better than DoT Summoner. Though I hope with the removal of the DoTs, the devs are thinking of giving us a new class that focuses on DoT upkeep, as despite DoT SMN's aesthetic problems with being a traditional Summoner, it was still fun to play and kept us pretty busy.
    you haven't seen silence of the lambs!?
    NIN coulda been the DoT class with their poisons and all
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