How is anyone fine with the 4-month patch delivery schedule?

[Catwho]

I have been playing since 1.0 and 2.0 launch and I, too, still have entire areas of this game that I have not fully tapped into. Never quite got into PVP. Never deep dived into Chocobo Racing, breeding, etc. Still have a crap ton of rare fish to catch.

4 months in between patches is perfectly fine, considering the game has grown 500% in size since launch and QA is an additive process.

[Eriane_Elis]

I think they need to divide their 4 month patch cycle into two months. The patches are pretty big but they don't last that long for most people and dividing it to 2 months but smaller releases (half size) would be better since there wouldn't be this gargantuan wait. The only thing keeping people who has caught up subbed for 4 months is the housing system lol There's a lot of things to do but everything including sidequests can all be done within a reasonable amount of time. Replay factor is subjective so for me, I don't care to replay a dungeon more than once unless I absolutely have to. If they did away with dungeons I would be more than happy but that's my opinion on it. Trials are different but once you mastered it, it gets boring. So what do you do for 4 months? Grind for better gear each week until it gets replaced right after you get the full set? Meh, been there, done that. There's PotD/HoH but even those get stale after a while since there are no dynamic elements to them. But, I'm a minority in this so my opinions should weigh very little since the majority don't come close to what I have completed. Thankfully, there's a million and one other games to play while waiting.

[NishaSetsuya]

I'm not fine with it. I wasn't fine with 3.5 months either. At this rate expansions will be every 3 years

Did some math and if they do it every 3 year it would just be 5 month added so ?

[KizuyaKatogami]

this. people dont understand that the developers are human too, not slaves made to constantly pump out content. good content takes time to make. id rather have to wait longer than have something rushed and it be absolute shit

I’d believe this if we saw actual content upgrades from the huge money bags they earned from Shadowbringers, but we actually saw a decline in content in Shadowbringers and in Endwalker, we are literally missing a dungeon set on release and the tataru glam is just a reused set. Like cmon now. We’re what, 4 expansions in, and they’re still reusing gear whilst at the same time not even making it dyable.

[Ixon]

I’d believe this if we saw actual content upgrades from the huge money bags they earned from Shadowbringers, but we actually saw a decline in content in Shadowbringers and in Endwalker, we are literally missing a dungeon set on release and the tataru glam is just a reused set. Like cmon now. We’re what, 4 expansions in, and they’re still reusing gear whilst at the same time not even making it dyable.

What dungeon set is missing? Also there isn't a direct correlation between a game becoming more popular to their requirement to automatically add in more content. Yoshi-P even verbally said it was a struggle to find more programmers in JP. Tataru glam? You mean a coat? Sure I guess they could have added in a new coat, but are people really upset at that? It's a jacket. I didn't even use the thing. If it makes you feel better you got a unique set when entering Elpis.

Edit: Wait, you mean the 89 dungeon set? They gave us AF at 89 in it's place so you actually used it for a bit. You used the AF set in more dungeons this expansion than past expansions.

[KizuyaKatogami]

What dungeon set is missing? Also there isn't a direct correlation between a game becoming more popular to their requirement to automatically add in more content. Yoshi-P even verbally said it was a struggle to find more programmers in JP. Tataru glam? You mean a coat? Sure I guess they could have added in a new coat, but are people really upset at that? It's a jacket. I didn't even use the thing. If it makes you feel better you got a unique set when entering Elpis.

The level 89 dungeon. We’d normally get a dungeon set for it but because they made the artifact gear obtained at 89 they decided not to give us the set. I bring up the tataru glam because typically we’re given it every expansion and it’s always been a unique gear set. Yet we didn’t get one in Shadowbringers and now in Endwalker we got…a reused coat. The elpis glam is unique yes but we’re always given some form of new glam set like that, it’s nothing new. We got the crystarium glam in ShB, imperial set in SB and so on. I wasn’t speaking purely on it becoming popular. I was speaking on it breaking record sales and somehow giving us less. I understand they need more people on the team but they’ve had years.

[Ixon]

The level 89 dungeon. We’d normally get a dungeon set for it but because they made the artifact gear obtained at 89 they decided not to give us the set. I bring up the tataru glam because typically we’re given it every expansion and it’s always been a unique gear set. Yet we didn’t get one in Shadowbringers and now in Endwalker we got…a reused coat. The elpis glam is unique yes but we’re always given some form of new glam set like that, it’s nothing new. We got the crystarium glam in ShB, imperial set in SB and so on. I wasn’t speaking purely on it becoming popular. I was speaking on it breaking record sales and somehow giving us less. I understand they need more people on the team but they’ve had years.

You are really grasping at straws here mate. We got the AF set early so we'd actually use it, we used it in more dungeons in EW than ShB. I'm sure more people felt better going into the final dungeon and fight in their AF gear than they would in some of the dungeon gear, it just felt better. Again, why are we complaining about a coat, it's a coat. The last "unique" set you mentioned didn't even make sense why we were getting it. At least "here's a coat cause it's cold" makes sense. I swear you have been in a coma and forgot there was a pandemic, there was a shortage of people and technology, Soken was writing music through f*cking CANCER, like c'mon man, give them a break. EW was amazing, no one other than you is sad about a coat and a single dungeon set(btw the lvl 79 set was just a rehash of another set so it's not like it was wildly unique), and 6.1 itself is set to offer a lot in comparison to what we got in ShB. Quality > Quantity.

[KizuyaKatogami]

You are really grasping at straws here mate. We got the AF set early so we'd actually use it, we used it in more dungeons in EW than ShB so it. I'm sure more people felt better going into the final dungeon and fight in their AF gear than they would in some of the dungeon gear, it just felt better. Again, why are complaining about a coat, it's a coat. The last "unique" set you mentioned didn't even make sense why we were getting it. At least "here's a coat cause it's cold" makes sense. I swear you have been in a coma and forgot there was a pandemic, there was a shortage of people and technology, Soken was writing music through f*cking CANCER, like c'mon man, give them a break. EW was amazing, no one other than you is sad about a coat and a single dungeon set(btw the lvl 79 set was just a rehash of another set so it's not like it was wildly unique), and 6.1 itself is set to offer a lot in comparison to what we got in ShB. Quality > Quantity.

What is it offering that ShB didn’t give us? ShB gave us an Ultimate. ShB gave us an ex trial. We were losing content in ShB long before the pandemic and please for the love of god, stop grasping at the pandemic excuse. They specifically delayed the expansion half a year to account for it and they themselves stated they were working at 90-95% efficiency before said delays. It’s not just about the gear sets lmao. It’s the fact that since ShB, the expansion that made the most money and before covid, we’ve been seeing downgrades. Whether it be them cutting dungeons,cutting deep dungeon,hildibrand, primal weapons etc. We are 4 expansions in the game and like i said before and you didn’t address, they are still reusing gear whilst not even making it dyable. Look at the level 87 dungeon set. As for the artifact gear comment, we only used it with one extra dungeon than we did in ShB. We had the artifact gear before the final ShB dungeon lol.

Also, it is extremely disingenuous to try to use Soken and his cancer as some kind of argument. He isn’t the only composer or music person lmao. You do know that don’t you?EW being amazing is entirely subjective and there are many who disagree with that statement.

[Ixon]

What is it offering that ShB didn’t give us? ShB gave us an Ultimate. ShB gave us an ex trial. We were losing content in ShB long before the pandemic and please for the love of god, stop grasping at the pandemic excuse. They specifically delayed the expansion half a year to account for it and they themselves stated they were working at 90-95% efficiency before said delays. It’s not just about the gear sets lmao. It’s the fact that since ShB, the expansion that made the most money and before covid, we’ve been seeing downgrades. Whether it be them cutting dungeons,cutting deep dungeon,hildibrand, primal weapons etc. We are 4 expansions in the game and like i said before and you didn’t address, they are still reusing gear whilst not even making it dyable. Look at the level 87 dungeon set. As for the artifact gear comment, we only used it with one extra dungeon than we did in ShB. We had the artifact gear before the final ShB dungeon lol.

Also, it is extremely disingenuous to try to use Soken and his cancer as some kind of argument. He isn’t the only composer or music person lmao. You do know that don’t you?EW being amazing is entirely subjective and there are many who disagree with that statement.

So idk if you know this, but EW just release, so we are planning to get a lot of stuff in the future patches. We are already on the roadmap set to get more ultimates that ShB. I'd love to be in your shoes where I could just simply wave away a global pandemic, alas, I cannot. And yes, there have been cuts on some things, HOWEVER, and you miss this but HOWEVER, it's to add items elsewhere. If you have a core group of devs right, and you want to add in something new, they cannot also be working on something else, or you get two bad products. Yes they have cut the total number of dungeons, but who actually cares? And if a cut dungeon leads to new content then good riddance. Also hi, you must be new, welcome to FFXIV, they re-use gear sometimes. In ShB the level 77 set was a crafter/gatherer set. Everyone has been working hard for FFXIV, everyone. I have no doubt that people there are just twiddling there thumbs at any given moment. You specifically are pointing blame, with a gimme gimme gimme attitude, assumeing some tin foil hat conspiracy to steal peoples hard earned cash when all they do is make video games to make people happy. And people are happy, even when all they get is an old coat.

[KizuyaKatogami]

So idk if you know this, but EW just release, so we are planning to get a lot of stuff in the future patches. We are already on the roadmap set to get more ultimates that ShB. I'd love to be in your shoes where I could just simply wave away a global pandemic, alas, I cannot. And yes, there have been cuts on some things, HOWEVER, and you miss this but HOWEVER, it's to add items elsewhere. If you have a core group of devs right, and you want to add in something new, they cannot also be working on something else, or you get two bad products. Yes they have cut the total number of dungeons, but who actually cares? And if a cut dungeon leads to new content then good riddance. Also hi, you must be new, welcome to FFXIV, they re-use gear sometimes. In ShB the level 77 set was a crafter/gatherer set. Everyone has been working hard for FFXIV, everyone. I have no doubt that people there are just twiddling there thumbs at any given moment. You specifically are pointing blame, with a gimme gimme gimme attitude, assumeing some tin foil hat conspiracy to steal peoples hard earned cash when all they do is make video games to make people happy. And people are happy, even when all they get is an old coat.

You’re implying the devs have 100% of say in anything. At the end of the day Square Enix is a company, all they want is our money. Also you’re constantly saying things “who actually cares.” Many people have expressed dissatisfaction in the downgrade of content, the problem is when people try to gatekeep the people talking about this. Also, i’d rather you tone down the condescending tone. I’m not new, yes they’ve given a road map, they did so for ShB. However thats future patches, not right now. Just on release i’m talking about we’re getting less than normal.

At this point you’re deliberately ignoring the information i’m giving you. They delayed the expansion specifically to account for any delays the pandemic caused. We were missing content in Shadowbringers BEFORE THE PANDEMIC EVEN BEGAN. What exactly did the cut dungeons in ShB lead to? It didn’t go to deep dungeon because that was cut. Certainly didn’t go to adding primal weapons for new jobs because those were all cut. Yes i know they reuse gear, again, please read my posts properly before responding. My point is we are 4 expansions in this game, with the game breaking record sales, and they can’t at the very least make reused gear DYABLE?! Meanwhile all the other mmo’s nowadays have a nice transmit system with infinite glamour space and 99% of gear dyable…People are happy just as there are people that are unhappy. You’re implying everyone is happy and satisfied with the game. That’s not the case.