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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I'm arguing that SE is using Button Bloat as an excuse and little more.
    Which has what remote relevance to not wanting to spend 5 buttons on lilies when the capacity (potency recovery, burst, and weave-space) could be more smoothly granted by far fewer? Why would you read into my position something that has nothing to do with it? I am not SE. I am merely arguing that you'd want to apply the very same logic (reasonable consolidation, etc.) to your own idea, because even if WHM is not yet at the button counts of AST and SCH, which we both already agree deserve consolidation, that doesn't stop bloated design from being undesirable.


    That said...
    They could hot-swap Shadowbringer's over Living Shadow since... they don't need to be separate buttons.
    A ST non-snapshotting DoT on a 2-minute cooldown that ideally ought to be popped before raid buffs =/= a 1-minute, 2 charge linear AoE oGCD that ought to be popped within raid buffs. Play DRK in dungeons and see how well you like only being able to use a powerful AoE behind a ST DoT rarely useful in trash.

    However, unlike Aqua Veil and Lilybell, there's at least a possible way to consolidate Afflatus Medica 2 and Cure 3 where Aqua Veil and Lilybell are kind of stuck unless they just get flat out removed.
    Yes... IF you consolidate them, which is what I suggested (finding less bloated means of achieving the same or better functionality).

    But let's also note that in moving those capacities onto the Lily system, you'd have then put Aquaveil and Lilybell (which, btw, are not merely Afflatus Medica II or Afflatus Cure III) on a shared resource cost with your other Lily skills and, most likely, force them onto the GCD.

    having free versions of them with WHM's current MP economy would help a lot more than either Aqua Veil or Lilybell ever could.
    If that were the vital concern, though, the far more direct, comprehensive, and obvious solution requires no additional buttons: reduce their MP costs (or that of WHM's overall kit per average use) or re-buff Thin Air. You don't spend 2 buttons on what can be better solved passively.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 02-26-2022 at 03:23 PM.