Quote Originally Posted by MidnightEquinox View Post
Mmm. I, for one, am very much over peoples' obsession with endgame. MMOs, to me, are about the world and the people in it. There's more to that with finding a group for a dungeon in an old-school way, or in world PvP, than creating a static group of 8/15/whatever hand picked people who are just like you to see a number go up to simulate what's effectively, at that point, just a sports team.

But I think forced grouping content kind of died out over time because it's nearly impossible for developers to manage it in a way that's healthy for their playerbase, there are too many bad incentives. It worked back when MMOs were relatively niche, streamers weren't much of a thing, and people were incentivized to learn the game with others at a pace that was sane. And in large part, these things happened specifically not at endgame. Endgame is often where the MMO goes to die.

So I'm not really surprised with devs moving to soloification and disentangling reliance. Especially when people are increasingly audibly angry at players that they perceive to be insufficiently skilled.

In-game, at least, on my server, everyone seems quite happy with the available content, including some people who have terrifying amounts of gametime.
I mean i agree with it being about the world and the people in it. Problem is overworld is dead and offers very little incentive to return to it after msq, and people wise most people nowadays turn to discord reddit or twitter for their interactions or in game content. The game doesn’t offer that much in terms of getting people together. Everything is done through duty finder. The difference between 14 and other mmo’s is 14 heavily places emphasis on the msq. You can’t get to endgame without going through msq, 90% of content is locked behind it. There’s hardly any in game help for learning jobs as well. The devs seem to only care about the story and that’s it, all other content be damned. Which i mean hey, they only gotta put in some effort for the msq, everything else they can wing it.