<MATERIA> First-Come First-Served AND Lottery Plots

[Shibi]

On the other hand, being able to start growing Thavnairian Onions one week sooner isn't going to make a long term difference in supply for your data center. Those of you who left your old selves behind still have the opportunity to transfer them, along with any needed items in short supply. As long as your worlds have the New status, those transfers will be free.

Onions are just a small part of this that I use as the example, and you should realise it.

On your future new NA worlds, if they stop all housing for 3 months at the start, people who want to RP in a bar can just head off to Balmung with intra-DC-travel. On OC, no RP in bars, housing is locked out.

On your future new NA worlds, if they stop housing for 3 months at the start, people who want to make furniture and decorate can stay on their old worlds without penalty until housing is opened, then transfer over, no problem. We can't do this, we need to pull up roots completely for 3 months, or start anew and grind up our FC rank, and GC rank.

On your future new NA worlds, you have the chance to head over to any server, so don't need to leave all your friends behind. On OC we need to restart a new community, merging JP and NA playstyles, not having housing ties less people here. We need the people, but for that, we need access to all the perks of housing.

On your future new NA worlds, you will mostly have EW players who transfer. While on OC we mosly have sprouts who have left their EW mains on the old datacentres. You can't begin to imagine the disruption in this one.

Many more differences too.

What you will see in NA will be completely different to what we are experiencing now. And really, your investment in our data centre just warps what we need for no good purpose. It won't change what happens in NA in a years time.

We need housing in the old cities opened now, to make a community, to allow roleplay, to stock the marketboard, to let people decorate, to stimulate the economy and more.

Heck even to free up houses on NA. A lot of people, like me, have their old mains with house still idle and unused on NA, because no houses on OC, so no way I am giving that up yet. Have a house on OC and there is less need to keep on on NA. I'd likely give up my NA house as soon as I get an OC house, and that means a NA player can have it.

Old cities now needs to be FCFS as it's prior to 6.1, lottery doesn't exist yet, and that's fine, we just need the housing unlocked NOW. Ishgard for 6.1 can be lottery as in all data centres, we don't seek special rules there.

Worry about your future NA servers please, and stop trying to set your direction on the OC servers please, because what you will see in a years time with DC travel allowed will be completely different to us.

Edit: Transfer stuff over, you say. Meh, I would, Aether is locked to new alts, No mules left. and that doesn't address the bulk of the need, just shortages in garden and FC workshop.

[Jojoya]

Onions are just a small part of this that I use as the example, and you should realise it.

I'm sorry but what other items that can only be obtained through housing have such a significant impact on game play that having access a week sooner because SE went FCFS instead of Lottery will make a substantial difference?

Workshop RNG is so crazy at times that starting a workshop one week sooner is not going to make a difference. Any early advantage will get canceled out when RNG goes sour later.

Furniture is a non-issue because it can be produced on demand. There's no need to stockpile it or even the materials to make it (outside of what comes off timed nodes and not many of those are needed) in advance.

No one has to leave their friends behind because we're free to create characters on every data center. I might not be able to do every single bit of content with my friends on other data centers but I'm still able to visit and do at least some content.

Again if the concern is that SE is waiting too long to even open housing, I'm with you 100%. It's needed sooner. Six weeks after a world is opened is more than long enough for players and FCs to get established to a minimum level needed to obtain housing.

That's not what is in question. The issue is FCFS versus lottery. You are not going to suffer just because you have to wait a few extra days for a lottery to happen.

I'm not saying their inventories are filled up with housing items right now. I'm saying they're not going to start spending on housing items until they have a house to dump them in because of inventory constraints. Lotteries will just delay that while people are locked up in the process to get a house and failing, when they could have just bought another one already with FCFS.

NA and EU can keep their lotteries. We promise we won't make you adopt our upside down ways.

And the lottery probably is not going to delay anything more than a week longer while in the meantime giving all players a fair chance to get a plot they want instead of the majority of premium plots going to RMT with the rest going to those who have the real life privilege of being able to log in when the servers come online.

But fine, let RMT have immediate and near total control over the best housing in your data center. Not my problem, right?

[Damptoe]

But fine, let RMT have immediate and near total control over the best housing in your data center. Not my problem, right?

Exactly, not your problem nor ours if we get FCFS. Players will outrun a dumb bot easily and I wish them luck in getting a good return on a resource that will still be widely available for many weeks after the initial release. Imaginary RMT can't hurt you.

[Shibi]

Again if the concern is that SE is waiting too long to even open housing, I'm with you 100%. It's needed sooner. Six weeks after a world is opened is more than long enough for players and FCs to get established to a minimum level needed to obtain housing.

That's not what is in question. The issue is FCFS versus lottery. You are not going to suffer just because you have to wait a few extra days for a lottery to happen

I still don't get why you, as a player who is not on Materia, are so intent on imposing your will on people half a world away, in a data-centre that has zero bearing on your own now or in the future.

But still, I will answer this; Don't you see that these points are mutually exclusive?

It seems to be a popular opinion on Materia that us Materia players want old city housing now so we can put down proper roots and grow our community and cohesion, to keep our players playing on our data centre and not melting back to their NA and JP homes.

But there is no lottery until likely mid to late April. It's not in the code. It's likely not even in QA testing yet. It's effectively a moot argument for those calling for housing now.

Come 6.1, when Emperyum is released world wide, Emperyum should be the same method and mix in all data centres. That and demolished/abandoned properties.

No different to how you have it on Coeurl.

[LunaFancy]

I agree with Shibi on this. And yes, we knew that housing would be delayed when we moved- but since the data centre was supposed to launch with 6.1 I guess we all assumed 6.1 was going to be soon after they released the worlds early - not that we would be waiting FOUR MONTHs for housing.

Four months with no FC workshops, no market for furnishings, people with retainers full of the furnishings they took from the houses they left, for four months. At least release some of the old wards now for players that gave up housing in good faith to populate the empty worlds on a new data centre.

And before anyone comes in crying fair to the new players- yes, I do believe players who relinquished plots on their old worlds are owed a shot at housing over and above the new player. We gave up something in good faith, and are being rewarded with a longer than expected stretch of homlessness and on top of that - pure random chance luck of the draw when the housing actually drops.

What a truly awful way to say thank you to veteran players who supported the initiative to create a new OCE data centre and gave up good queues, flourishing markets and established housing in doing so. I have newbies in my FC whose chocobos are going untrained, we should be levelling airships NOW not waiting for months to hope for a random chance at getting an FC house.

It;s been a month since launch, the established player base who transferred should, in all fairness have a chance to restore the personal plots they gave up now, and FCs with the means ( and show me a legit FC without 3 mil by now ) should be able to get their houses NOW. Give us a couple of each old ward early FCFS and hold the rest for lottery if you want, but dear gods let those of us who left behind worlds get on with building the new ones NOW.