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  1. #1
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    Bubble_Butt's Avatar
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    State of mind? State in my country? Nosy and non-specific! Harumpf!
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    Bubble Entendre
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I personally like lottery : if you work full time, it's impossible with the old system to have the free time to 'camp' and its a system that favours faster connection / PC / etc and it's also unhealthy. As it is now, I am personally against FCFS.

    But I think the staggering idea would stop a lot of issues with the FCFS system and this needs more attention / upvotes. I am for lottery, but staggered FCFS would be just as good and in some cases better.

    The positives of staggering and reducing the windows and have different wards at different times seems - people generally play with those in their zones, would reduce tedium and bots can click forever so I feel it would improve the chance for a RL player to get it. it would allow people that work etc to time their purchases as well.
    Especially with bots. The larger the window, the more a human would tire or have commitments to attend to.

    I wish we could fix the issue with supply : Bots don't seem as regulated yet on Materia as on JP servers from my experience - the same gil sellers have been running around and the Uldah aetheryte has a chunk of bots inside, regardless of reports.

    I can both understand the delay, and somewhat dislike it : It is nice to give fresh players a chance, however I've personally been sitting on house gil since about HW. So I can appreciate both arguments : Some people have been waiting 'in line' for longer than it takes to raise a child and have them go to school. but content should be available for everyone.

    Would be great if they implemented some of the great suggestions people have had, but it's always going to come down to more wards. We are dealing with disruptions while they expand things : Hopefully they've taken extra wards into account....
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    Last edited by Bubble_Butt; 02-22-2022 at 03:53 PM. Reason: i never use these forums and im messy

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    LunaFancy's Avatar
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    P'ahkti Coeurleone
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    Zurvan
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    Bard Lv 100
    The point everyone seems to be missing is that when new wards are released there is NO TIMER.

    First come, first served means literally that. You log in and run for your plot. If you miss one you dash to an aethershard and try for the subdivision or a different ward. You have multiple options and everyone is on a level playing field, I won a large in a new ward drop back on NA when I missed my first choice and ported to the subdivision immediately.

    Fresh world FCFS is fair for all and on top of that you have multiple chances to get a plot on the night, lottery removes all the positive aspects of fresh wards.

    The lottery is horrible for fresh wards. You have one shot and if you miss that one shot- you might not get another.

    I don't think there is a single soul who would argue that the timer on demolished plots was a good thing, but new plots in fresh wards have never had a timer. So why people are all acting as if we were going to be fighting bots in a click war in the new wards is beyond me. It was never going to happen that way.
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    Damp Toe
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    Kujata
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFancy View Post
    The point everyone seems to be missing is that when new wards are released there is NO TIMER.
    Exactly. The lottery just makes the process of getting a house painfully longer for very few benefits when we could be kickstarting our economy and community instead.

    There is no RMT problem for fresh housing districts and we're getting all 5 of them at once. I also fancy a real player's chances in a foot race against a dumb bot in a multiboxing situation, but I don't see a need for cheaters to use bots in the first place given how many plots will stay available for a long time anyway.

    With the current population, houses will likely remain unsold for months potentially, with Ravana probably being the only exception. Unless there's a massive migration of people who held out until housing released.

    Sephirot feels near or below early Stormblood Kujata's population, when there were still houses for sale with only 12 wards and no Shirogane yet. I know Zurvan and Bismarck will have absolutely zero problems getting houses.
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    Last edited by Damptoe; 02-23-2022 at 07:54 AM.

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    Ish Star
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    Zurvan
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    Conjurer Lv 67
    I can only reiterate:

    On the established DCs the implementation of lottery is an improvement - it makes it not about who can sacrifice their life or bot the best to get the house.

    On OCE the situation is different.
    Even as a person who absolutely supports lottery, I would be much happier to see Materia be 100% FCFS from 6.1 to 6.2.
    Then from 6.2 SE can apply housing to it in alignment with the apparent need of the worlds/server - be that keeping FCFS or adopting a mix of lottery and FCFS.

    The strength of lottery is when the world has an extreme housing shortage, which just isn't the likely case in Materia.
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    Broken Wind
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    Zurvan
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    Ninja Lv 50
    +1 for non Ishgard FCFS on Materia (even if only half the wards)
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    Renata Abata
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    Sephirot
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I'd just like to add my voice to the rest of the supporters here that FCFS for at least some (half?) of the wards seems like a better idea than all-lottery. Please consider it.
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    Mienne Narmandais
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    Zurvan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I am also adding my support for 50/50 FCFS and Lottery for all of the wards. I moved to Materia and left my house on Elemental, so I'd be pretty upset if I missed out because of a pure lottery system.
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    Zi Nyx
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 90
    +1 (Non-Ishgard) FCFS on Materia DC.

    SE please give us the option to purchase houses on a FCFS basis, like on other populated worlds upon initial release of their residential wards. We want to have the ability to choose our own plots and not to have that option taken away from us. This option was granted to other players, and we wanted to be treated in the same manner.
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    E'elyah Dawnlucii
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    Sophia
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    Sage Lv 100
    +1 showing support as a player that moved permanently to Materia for some FCFS housing in existing wards and not 100% lottery. Even 25% of existing housing as FCFS would be nice for those of us that know exactly what we want and have the resources to move the furniture market/spend gil/invest in gardening to make rare items more readily available (all of which sorely needed on this DC right now). An additional week of uncertainty in waiting for lottery, and then losing out houses to people that don't have the ability to participate in all these activities as actively is going to hurt the economy of Materia moreso.
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    Charlotte Mori
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Just gonna bump this and hope that they comment on this in the Live Letter part 2. Materia really wants a response from the team about this!
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