Please grow the MMO part of the game. End game is lousy.

[VirusOnline]

The person who can max out everything and experience all the game has to offer in less than a year is surely one of the Devoted, or a teenager. (Yeah, I raised two of them, yeah, only one of them played WoW, yeah, they both own Playstation consoles and play games only occasionally now that they're in their mid-twenties/early thirties).

Surely, but ehh, things are much easier than they have ever been.
Even when HQ leves were the sole source of exp, it was fairly easy within a few months to max crafters.

This all doesn’t even account for the fact they’re now going to be focusing on making the game a single player visual novel basically.

it wouldn't surprise me if SE is planning for XIVs death with its eta of 10 years

[Thaciscokidd]

This all doesn’t even account for the fact they’re now going to be focusing on making the game a single player visual novel basically.

it wouldn't surprise me if SE is planning for XIVs death with its eta of 10 years

I honestly think this is a move towards what they are doing to there other MMO, Dragon Quest X. Its entirely possible that we might see a stand alone offline FFXIV game in the future.

[Skiros]

It drives me mad too


Almost as much as hearing someone say "Lol" when amused

In my head I rage "initialisms aren't spoken words" as well as other, unsafe for personal forum account stability, wordings I shall not repeat here.


I wonder if newspeak really is going to be the norm in the not so distant future.

lmao why r u malding lol, kek vee vee

[kaynide]

Just to play devils advocate kinda sorta:

I only play this game for the single player bits, with occasional multiplayer aspects. I play the main story, then after that the game serves as a place I can do stuff with my wife and our small circle of friends. I rarely interact with anyone outside of these…6-8 people. I do the alliance raids maybe once a week if I need the gear or like the glamour. The most interaction I do is a Christmas giveaway every year.

I do not do: pvp, 8 man raids/trials, relic grinds/Eureka/Bozja, RP.

For me, the best things the game has after the story is “stuff to do with my friends”, like ocean fishing, treasure hunts, and gold saucer. The upcoming island thing will be very welcome.

The devs have the retention numbers, and I believe they understand what the majority of players actually do and what tends to retain customers the best. The devs have also made it clear that making, tweaking and balancing fights are incredibly time consuming when compared to other things they could make. The fact they don’t spend more on such things tells me that endgame stuff likely just isn’t as popular as many make it out to be, or the development time doesn’t give as big a return on investment when compared to some other things. Indeed, they opted to cut deep dungeon and an ultimate entirely from 5.0’s cycle in favor of something like the Ishgard restoration.

Just my humble opinion.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Ye add more solo things to a game where people fell forced to even say a welcome /hi to people the the party they are part of is not good. More so from the get go. We need to make it so more people fell they need others and not just a bot.

[Eraden]

Ye add more solo things to a game where people fell forced to even say a welcome /hi to people the the party they are part of is not good. More so from the get go. We need to make it so more people fell they need others and not just a bot.

Don't blame the game for that. Whenever I join a group I always say hi and I often chat with complete strangers. Sometimes it really IS the people themselves who are the impediment to more sociability.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Don't blame the game for that. Whenever I join a group I always say hi and I often chat with complete strangers. Sometimes it really IS the people themselves who are the impediment to more sociability.

It's a 50/50. Yes it's how bad the people are but then the game do not make you ever fell as if you need others. Like you don't care what people you get in a DF most of the time.

[Lauront]

This all doesn’t even account for the fact they’re now going to be focusing on making the game a single player visual novel basically. Which means less time put towards new content and more time being put towards old content for new players, something that we saw happen in ShB.

Yes, that'd be ironic, the game becoming like the Plenty in the Dead Ends as the 'stress' of certain gameplay aspects is stripped out and it is turned into a visual novel.

[Slayer25c]

Aside from the Marvel Avengers debacle (in 2020), I haven't ready anything in particular about 'extremely bad games', or major losses. The HD Games division almost tripled net sales from FY2020 to FY2021 (due to that 'extremely bad' FFVII Remake?) and was still double FY2020 in FY2022 net sales. They must be doing somewhat ok.

If anything, the Smart Device/PC Browser division of Digital Entertainment brings in double the revenue of the MMO division, so the 'joke' is pretty laughable.

The extremely bad ff7 remake that game was masterpiece

[xenahawk]

I agree that they're chasing the entirely wrong demographic.

The game's population exploded over the past year, due to a massive influx of people interested in the game because it's an mmorpg. Timid, single-player 'holdouts' are a drop in the ocean in comparison, and not worth potentially compromising an opportunity to please a demographic that is already known to be highly active and lucrative. This feels like another example of the developers being largely out-of-touch with the NA/EU playerbase, where most of the population expansion has been focused.

No i started playing because i grew up playing different ff games and loving it. Now i did come from another mmo but player toxicity tufned me off of group contemt so i was extremely worried about trying yhis game knowing that in order to progress story group was mandatory. I did start playing despite this and found with very few exceptions that the community here seems way different. Well this opens the door for many more people seeing this too.