What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[TheRod]

One very interesting point about this Live Letter:

It was just confirmed the last civilization of the "Dead Ends", the "Ra-La" were - basically - the future of the Ancients, nonetheless, regardless of outcome.

[Slatersev]

One very interesting point about this Live Letter:

It was just confirmed the last civilization of the "Dead Ends", the "Ra-La" were - basically - the future of the Ancients, nonetheless, regardless of outcome.

I mean, that was obvious, I literally have no idea how anyone could think otherwise. Were the masks, robes and mass conformity not super obvious?

[Rulakir]

Listening to the responses in the Q&A at the live letter... so far it's obvious there's things they never bothered to plan/write and there's also more nonsense.

I was also disappointed to learn they put so little thought into the finer details of the lore. Half of the responses to the questions were to come up with your own theory.

Memories from the final days passed from Emet to Zenos as you would pass DNA? (Yay more calvinball, memories edition!)

I couldn't believe that either.

Venat consciously deciding to not sunder Emet, Lahabrea and Elidibus? But the rejoinings... the calamities... and the mass murder of the people on the Source and the shards... Did she really LET them do all that?

I didn't think Venat could be painted to be any worse, but here we are. Confirmation that her outreach was meaningless, she always intended to sunder everyone. Confirmation that she purposely spared Emet and did her best to maintain the WoL's timeline, which would include all the rejoinings (and thus I feel I can say that my theory of her non-intervention on the First because that was part of 'the plan' is substantiated).

Yoshi-P also compared her to Hermes, something we've been saying all along as well. At the end of the day, she was just another Ancient (ironically with the same lack of respect for life that people criticize every other Ancient for) who abused their power because they could. I can't even say I'm unhappy because at least Yoshi-P admits it (as well as being aware that some people view her as a villain, which I will also take as confirmation that the Japanese audience had the same issues we did). It's just a shame that the narrative depicts her as some kind of 'goddess of goodness'.

[Theodric]

One very interesting point about this Live Letter:

It was just confirmed the last civilization of the "Dead Ends", the "Ra-La" were - basically - the future of the Ancients, nonetheless, regardless of outcome.

I don't think that it makes much sense since Venat was possessed of information that would have helped the Ancients avert such a hypothetical fate and it would have occurred so far in the distant future that I'm not entirely certain why it'd even be an issue given that the Sundering also resulted in the extinction of the Ancients. Except through genocide rather than free choice.

If nothing else, Yoshi-P conceded that Venat, much like Hermes, abused her power to get the result that she desired. He also pretty much acknowledged the controversy surrounding her character and hard confirmed her permanent death. Let's hope it sticks, eh?

Apparently the story was still being written very close to the deadline and we had a delay as well so I suppose I'll never be convinced that plans didn't change course drastically part way through development.

On a more pleasant note, my question about the Garlean radio music was answered - we're getting it as an orchestrion roll in 6.1!

[tokinokanatae]

A civilization reaching a natural end is different from saying, "well, it will end like this eventually, so it makes no difference if I hurry things along." Yes, maybe the Ancients would have ended up like the Plenty, but that's immaterial in discussing the things Venat did. Like, you know, Sundering all of existence, but making sure Emet-Selch survived to carry out the Rejoinings, lol.

[Divinemights]

People does not seem to get that Ancient has different culture and morale code than us.
Even in our current time, you can call any one a fool that expecting Chinese or Japanese to thinks the same as North Americans.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I kinda like how this whole "story thread' is getting so deep that were discussing the nature of morality and ethics. Im not being sarcastic, its just that its been very interesting to see how much people read into things with Endwalker's story.

[Skyborne]

A civilization reaching a natural end is different from saying, "well, it will end like this eventually, so it makes no difference if I hurry things along." Yes, maybe the Ancients would have ended up like the Plenty, but that's immaterial in discussing the things Venat did. Like, you know, Sundering all of existence, but making sure Emet-Selch survived to carry out the Rejoinings, lol.

25,000 years in the future, G'ralphinaud XXVI the Cyborg God-Emperor is satisfied after merging the last stubborn inkling of seperate culture into the Grand Eternal Alliance. At last, the brightest and bestest future has been reached. With a proud sigh and a bite of his cheeseburger, he presses the button that detonates the Lifestream.

But they had hope, and it was beautiful, so that makes it okay.

[Theodric]

A civilization reaching a natural end is different from saying, "well, it will end like this eventually, so it makes no difference if I hurry things along." Yes, maybe the Ancients would have ended up like the Plenty, but that's immaterial in discussing the things Venat did. Like, you know, Sundering all of existence, but making sure Emet-Selch survived to carry out the Rejoinings, lol.

It's a head scratcher for sure. I must admit, I raised an eyebrow when it was revealed that Venat played a large part in the existence of the Rejoinings as they were often cited by some as an 'unforgivable' act that could not possibly be excused in any way, shape or form.

I do wonder if that stance will soften now that Venat is ultimately the one responsible for their existence...

[TheRod]

I don't think that it makes much sense since Venat was possessed of information that would have helped the Ancients avert such a hypothetical fate and it would have occurred so far in the distant future that I'm not entirely certain why it'd even be an issue given that the Sundering also resulted in the extinction of the Ancients. Except through genocide rather than free choice.

If nothing else, Yoshi-P conceded that Venat, much like Hermes, abused her power to get the result that she desired. He also pretty much acknowledged the controversy surrounding her character and hard confirmed her permanent death. Let's hope it sticks, eh?

Apparently the story was still being written very close to the deadline and we had a delay as well so I suppose I'll never be convinced that plans didn't change course drastically part way through development.

On a more pleasant note, my question about the Garlean radio music was answered - we're getting it as an orchestrion roll in 6.1!

First of all, this is a nice thing about the Orchestration Roll. Congratz, and a nice accomplishment to have a question answered! Thank you.

And further, indeed, we may dislike or like, agree or disagree - Necessary to point, as well, that Yoshida made also a very clear point she "remains" (metaphorically, of course, as her being and soul are gone) with the Warrior of Light, by means of the Blessing of Light, that is "forever" to which Naoki paraphrased: "I'd like to think the Blessing of Light stays forever like she said: 'my love will be with you forever, my dearest children'".