FF14 and toxic positivity

[Colt47]

Is this a thread about novice network? The title and content are so vague that it's like looking at a bunch of color splotches on a piece of paper and asking people to say what they are seeing.

[Illmaeran]

if somebody likes the antagonists in a video game, then they are bad people with flawed morals.

Hannibal Lechter's the best villain ever written and I love the character.

I shall thrown down my gauntlet if you disagree, sir!!

[Silver-Strider]

A fight, a discussion, a debate, an exchange of ideas, whatever you want to call it.

Needs more Broil Spam

[Illmaeran]

Needs more Broil Spam

I prefer to grill Spam. If you cook it in a sauté pan for long enough it gets crispy and tastes like bacon, there's that too.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The playful comment was in response to posters who have consistently insinuated over a number of years that if somebody likes the antagonists in a video game, then they are bad people with flawed morals. In addition to sending weird threats and comments outside of the game itself through Reddit, Twitter and Discord.

Speaking of which, it has long been a problem within the lore community where certain posters will repeatedly harass someone, then when they get even the slightest bit of pushback in response, they throw up their hands and feign innocence.

Some people must just be absolutely infatuated with you given how much they memorize your posts. Must be the hyur face.

[Kaurhz]

Criticisms are not homogenous between individuals. People have as much right disagreeing with a criticism or 'shutting it down' as this place might phrase in all its hidden glory, as to what people do creating creating criticism in the first place. People aren't really obligated to agree with a criticism.

Besides, I'm not entirely sure what people expect when disagreements in criticisms are often misconstrued as fanboyism, cultism, or white knighting. It's just unconducive to discussion/debate on both sides of the coin to where negative stigmas are starting to sprout, regardless of the intent.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Some people must just be absolutely infatuated with you given how much they memorize your posts. Must be the hyur face.

It's almost like you remember the people you have strong disagreements with.

It's the same with your posts. But then, you knew that.

[Kranel_San]

another low quality troll bait thread. please stop feeding

You have just proved the claim made by the original poster to be true.
Can we stop calling people as trolls and discuss a bit more seriously? Even WoW folk doesn't do that when someone wants to say something.

[Theodric]

It's almost like you remember the people you have strong disagreements with.

It's the same with your posts. But then, you knew that.

I don't recall any 'strong disagreements' between us. If there are any, they're very likely one sided or intent is being misjudged somewhere.

Though to provide further clarity to my prior point, here's an older post relating to the subject that I made:

At the end of the day, it's just a video game. One many of us are varying degrees of passionate about, certainly, though I personally don't care for rivalries to form over something that is entirely fictional. As such, my stance has ever been to agree to disagree where common ground cannot be found. I don't care for endless arguments over morality and I'd like to think I've made it perfectly clear that if anyone has a problem with me, then they're very welcome to come and talk it out in a civil manner.

I like working out and discussing the 'how' and 'why' things happen in the way that they do in any given story or historical event, though my personal preferences drift towards characters and factions that have lofty stakes over those that have everything work out to their benefit most of the time.

One thing I noticed, however, was that some pretty spiteful and nasty accusations were aimed at anyone who ever dared to speak up in favour of the antagonists. This included death threats, homophobic comments and other unpleasant elements. Given that the offending posts were deleted, however, then such will have to be taken with a pinch of salt - though I'd like to think those who are being genuine and who have been around for a while will be aware of what I'm speaking of. Especially since some of the offending comments leaked into Reddit, Twitter and certain Discord servers.

The most fascinating thing I observed was that certain posters would repeatedly launch thinly veiled attacks and sometimes direct personal attacks at fans of the antagonists, implying all manner of horrible things about their person and real world morality. When finally those being assaulted had enough, even a minor quip in response would be treated as some deeply horrific crime and personal attack.

I will say that things have improved somewhat since then. Right around the same time that the game itself revealed that, yes, actually there was more to the Ascians and Garleans all along.

Ultimately any given individual is going to have their personal preferences and interests. I've never suggested that anyone has to like specific characters or factions. I only ask that the same courtesy is extended to others in turn.

In closing, I'd also note that the game attracts players from many different countries, cultures, backgrounds and belief systems. We all have different life experiences, so that is going to influence what we like and we don't like.

[Kolaina]

It's almost like you remember the people you have strong disagreements with.

It's the same with your posts. But then, you knew that.

But do you start to disagree with them because it’s them or because of the things being said.

I hate to bring up names, so I won’t. But there’s a couple people in this thread I’ve disagreed with strongly. However, in this thread and potentially a few others, although recognizing their names, I upvote if I think they have a good point or I find myself agreeing with them.

I don’t hate people, I just disagree with stances, ideas