Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
Well, no. The ancients are dead, so they failed. Mankind in thier post-sundered state are not dead, so they pass. This isn't about deserving to live or die in some ethical sense - it's a cold and dispassionate scientitifc trial. The kind Hermes was asked to conduct every day on the creations of Elpis.

And of course it's unethical to subject people to a test like that. Which does raise the question - was it also unthethical to create life and subject it to similar cold and dispassionate testing for its survival.
They didn’t die to the final days. They died to the sundering. Is this really so hard to understand? They survived the final days itself. Idk why the person above is saying only 3 survived. We know a not insignificant amount of ancients survived the final days itself. It’s the sundering that rendered them extinct. The “life” you claim to care so much about was ftmp, soulless. If you’re going to apply that logic, then by all means, you must agree that it is incredibly unethical for the wol and the sundered to create primals or familiars or constructs only to have them be killed, used as entertainment(colosseum), or worse. They succeeded in the trial itself. My point anyways was the original person was saying they deserved to be erased because they failed the test. That’s not true. Secondly let’s not act like all of the sundered succeeded. It was because of 7-8 people with the help of the ancients that they were even able to succeed. Most of the normal sundered gave in incredibly quickly to despair. Imagine if the WoL who is what, 8 times rejoined? Hadn’t been there. They’d be completely demolished.