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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    In that case then the ancients passed the test since they did survive the final days.
    Kinda like saying the dinosaurs survived the meteor, only to be killed off by completely unrelated dust clouds shortly after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Kinda like saying the dinosaurs survived the meteor, only to be killed off by completely unrelated dust clouds shortly after.
    It was the completely unrelated temperature changes I'll have you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Kinda like saying the dinosaurs survived the meteor, only to be killed off by completely unrelated dust clouds shortly after.
    Really doesn’t matter. If it’s as clear cut as just surviving the final days, they did so. Or now are we going to start adding new invisible rules to his “test.” Lol in this case, we can argue it was only a select few sundered who actually overcame Meteion, the rest deserve to be erased i guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Really doesn’t matter. If it’s as clear cut as just surviving the final days, they did so. Or now are we going to start adding new invisible rules to his “test.” Lol in this case, we can argue it was only a select few sundered who actually overcame Meteion, the rest deserve to be erased i guess
    To the extent that he should even be graced with an answer. The test is little more than his bad faith attempt to lash out at his people and drag the entire universe with them and hiding all this information to make it "fair"; in the end the one person who has knowledge of this divulges it to her champion. In practical terms, they need to deal with two things - 1) Meteion (including finding and getting to her) and silence her and 2) taking on board what was learnt in the Dead Ends. Neither they nor the sundered would succeed at either of these without knowledge of the actual test and, ultimately, the sundered along with plenty of help from the unsundered (including one LARPing as a supreme deity), even beings hailing from other stars, are able to eventually meet it, although 2) will never be fully passed because anything can strike out of the blue anyway and end the world again or it can stray onto one of the many potential "dead ends", whatever the plausibility of some of them might be. The uplifting message of 6.0.

    Maybe the ancients should've just become neets and avoided populating the planet because some nutjob had excessive sensitivity to it (=evaluating the fitness of the creations to integrate into the broader star's ecosystem), before proceeding to enact a "test" that would wipe out of most of the universe in time. Somehow though this never made it into either Hermes's test or Venat's, because the sundered are heedless to any such "concerns", and she neglected to mention anything about that at all...
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    Last edited by Lauront; 02-15-2022 at 07:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    The test is little more than his bad faith attempt to lash out at his people and drag the entire universe with them and hiding all this information to make it "fair"; in the end the one person who has knowledge of this divulges it to her champion.
    This. It wasn't a test, it was a condemnation. Not even of just Etheirys, but of all life in the universe.

    In practical terms, they need to deal with two things - 1) Meteion (including finding and getting to her) and silence her and 2) taking on board what was learnt in the Dead Ends. Neither they nor the sundered would succeed at either of these without knowledge of the actual test and, ultimately, the sundered along with plenty of help from the unsundered
    Ah, you beat me to it. As Vyreus said in another thread: "It is one, idealized and idolized individual. An anointed chosen one birthed by the murder of original man. Prepared and groomed for the role, and given every tool past, present, and future to ensure success. If all of that is what's required to be worthy of life, then no basic concept for the worthiness of life exists."
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